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Kim Dotcom, who is facing criminal charges relating to the defunct file-sharing website Megaupload, is to be extradited to the US, the New Zealand justice minister has said.

German-born Dotcom has New Zealand residency and has been fighting extradition to the US since 2012 following an FBI-ordered raid on his Auckland mansion.

The justice minister, Paul Goldsmith, had signed an extradition order for Dotcom, a spokesperson said on Thursday.

“I considered all of the information carefully, and have decided that Mr Dotcom should be surrendered to the US to face trial,” Goldsmith said in a statement.

In a post on X on Tuesday, Dotcom said: “The obedient US colony in the South Pacific just decided to extradite me for what users uploaded to Megaupload,” in what appears to be a reference to the extradition order.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 155 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

the whole math of "stole $500 million" is stupid. That is hypothetical money. It is just not true that all people would have purchased instead without megaupload.

"Which generated $175 million for the site" that's more like it. Making money with other people's content is shitty and Kim knew it was happening.

I don't think he should be extradited but that is at least a decent reason.

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Making money with other people's content is shitty"

What reddit, xitter, meta and pretty every big corporation is doing right now with A.I.?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah that's also pretty shitty

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Begin the 12 year extradition process.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you think being shitty and breaking the law are the same thing?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it only makes sense to criminally charge the CEO's of AI companies if the same thing is being done to Kim Dotcom

—Regardless, my initial post was meant to be satire

—Personally speaking I don't think all laws on the books are ethical, nor do I think everything that's unethical is against the law. With that in mind, I don't care if Kim Dotcom was an asshole because I can't earnestly argue on behalf of our Intellectual Property laws in the first place. I think they create a framework that is so far beyond reasonable, that my only response is to condone piracy as I have done since long before they raided his mansion.

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Except that when you post to Reddit, you grant them "a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit."

~ Sauce

[–] GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Except most people posting to social media aren't the ones that own the content.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

oh its written somewhere, that makes it totally ok to steal content then, carry on

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah seriously. The whole idea that people can be fucked by fine print in some one sided agreement specifically designed to discourage people from reading is one of the dumbest things our species collectively goes along with.

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Completely agree, if you're going in search of a movie online, even if you can't find it, you're not guaranteed to go out and buy it full price, it's often a matter of both convenience & price. It's hard to compete with a free download.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As The Gabe says, piracy is a service issue

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 months ago

Can confirm, since I have almost every streaming service I rarely consider pirating at all, now I don't pay for any but 1, so if password crackdowns or location based logins become widespread I'll be motivated to raise the flag again

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Plex anyone?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 130 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 26 points 2 months ago

Aye, me too. But does it not make you think... Is there anything we can collectively do to help?

I know he's had his issues, but man, he gave us access to do many things back in the day

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow. I forgot that guy existed... I wonder if he still thinks his name change is cool.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Lol, yeah that's a damn good question.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use Mega. It's the cloud service that minds it's own business.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They all do when you encrypt before uploading.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I mostly meant advertising upgrades and services

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be hilarious when he spanks the us government in court after 12 years of their bs.