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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Without a Palestinian state and a multi-national presence to enforce it there will never be peace. The motive for attacks will remain.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A Palestinian state wouldn’t fix it either, considering that Hamas and similar groups in the area very explicitly want ALL the territory and want Israel to not exist at all.

[–] disablist@lemdro.id 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Great, then it's solved. The only solution is genocide. Doesn't matter which side, just pick one, and kill them all.

That is what you're saying, right?

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is no good solution to the current state of things.

[–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Good is relative. What you mean is that there isn't a perfect solution. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

So if your argument is that a two state solution isn't perfect, therefore we shouldn't do it, then that's tacit approval for my first solution...a final solution if you will. Just pick a side, and poof.

If you're not comfortable with genocide, then a two state solution is the only viable path forward with any hope of chance of being made into a good outcome, even if not a perfect one.

So pick one: a final solution or a two-state solution, but stop with the wishy-washy "the status quo must remain until a perfect solution is found".

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don’t get me wrong I’d love a two state solution or really any solution where they stop killing each other. But in order for a two state solution to happen, you need both sides to agree on the borders, and good luck with that.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just remind the Israeli government who holds the biggest stick and which hand feeds them.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago

Reminder that the UN has tried to implement the two state solution before but the Arab side said “No we want all of it”

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You're down voted for truth.

Many Palestinians would probably be happy for recognition of state I imagine but Hamas very likely would not. It's currently a convenient excuse for them but if it happened I highly doubt they would stop trying to lob missiles over the border and be a peaceful neighbour, even if Israel stopped trying to steal land.

Not saying it shouldn't happen but it's not some magical solution like many seem to think.