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Common Re-Logic W
Seriously though, whilst the budget they can give to Godot and FNA is small compared to what other, bigger devs/publishers could give, I find their commitment remarkable and very much in-line with their goal of empowering developers and gamers alike
We need more publishers doing things like this
Considering FNA and Godot, $100K is gonna do wonders to both projects, specially with the additional $1K
They might even better afford to have developers working full-time at the engines, or deal with stuff like infrastructure, licensing, hosting and other costsTrue! Considering Godot and FNA’s current size this is indeed going to catapult them to a different league, which I guess is what Re-Logic was setting out to do :P
It won’t change Godot.
Epic donated $250,000 in 2020, Kefir donated $120,000 in 2021. Godot Devs started W4 games and raised $8.5m of which their goal is to support Godots growth.
$100,000 is nice and will allow them to continue but it’s not “league changing” money or anything for them.
You‘re forgetting that this doesn‘t only come with money, but also free press, which is sometimes worth more as it would expose more people to Godot‘s existence, any of which may potentially donate :P
It’s crazy how successful they’ve been off just making and selling a good indie game. They’re still doing free updates AND they can afford a $200k donation?
Terraria is like the anti-modern game. They absolutely refuse to evilly monetize their game at all. The playerbase is almost on their knees, begging them to move on from Terraria and make something else (not because Terraria is bad, but they’ve been at it for over a decade!) and they continue to churn out updates. The fanbase voted for a set of features to appear in Terraria 2, which they then turned around and scrapped, and added it as an update to Terraria. And all their updates are always free. And can’t forget about their amazing mod support.
And redigit is just, like, the man.
The playerbase is almost on their knees, begging them to move on from Terraria and make something else (not because Terraria is bad, but they’ve been at it for over a decade!) and they continue to churn out updates
dont worry, im sure update 1.4.5 will be the final final final final final final final update, and then they will move on.
They’ll stop updating the game whenever the Attack on Titan anime actually ends.
I love how they keep saying they will have a final update, and then they just keep updating it regardless. It’s really impressive.
Also their game is literally $10 USD on Steam, compared to all the $70 ones that have been coming out lately.
And regularly on sale for $5.
Tbf it takes a significantly smaller team to develop a 2d platforming game like terraria. The overhead for art and design is mush simpler too than something like a Cyberpunk 2077
Also Terraria is a lot of fun and more replayable than most $70 games.
Nooo you don’t understand they’re just a small indie dev with less than 20 employees. They don’t have a bunch middle managers to pay exorbitant salaries to, or a team of underpaid artists churning out assets they can sell to players at basically infinite markup! They don’t need a whole team of programmers to build and update an in game cash shop, or a battlepass, or pointlessly integrate the product with blockchains, AI, and metaverse. They don’t have to call an all hands mandatory overtime crunch to fix all the bugs they had at release because it was shoved out the door early to juice some quarterly financials report.
If you were smart you’d realize that had game prices had kept up with inflation they would have been $70 like 10 years ago! No this doesn’t mean they were massively overcharging 10 years ago, the cost of production changed but only in a way that justified raising the price (which they never did until recently, out of generosity), never lowering it.
I don’t game at all, but I now feel like buying the game just to show my support to these awesome devs.
Same. I do game, just games like Terraria aren’t my taste, but I’ll still buy the game on my accounts to show my support to them.
They came out around peak indie craze, 14 or so years ago. I believe they were just behind Minecraft in terms of success. Total lifetime sales for their game have it outselling Skyrim.
It’s time to dust off Terraria and go on a nice run again.
Edit: I will, of course, be first in line to buy any new games they release. They donated $100k to a FOSS project I use and love, thus to me as well indirectly, I can give some of my disposable income back to then.
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You know they’re legit when my nephew just built a PC and is excited to finally play terraria.
This is how its done. I hope this sparks a FOSS revolution.
Re-Logic have always been my favorite group of devs in the industry. This is yet another item to add to my long list of reasons for that.
Putting their money where their mouth is.
I just bought my 6th copy of Terraria, glad the money was well spent.
What an incredibly kind move by the Terraria developers. This is part of why Terraria is awesome!
This reminds me of a time when the blender fund was opened and at some point a bunch of companies jumped to donate money (steam, epic, google, AMD…) this was way back when 2.8 was getting in shape. Years later we saw the fruits of that labor with the 3.x series bringing nice improvements and refactors that were done over the course of many months and years
We probably won’t see a huge push in godot’s quality in what’s left of this year, but maybe in 2024 and later
Yeah, right now it’s more about sending a message and oh boi did they send one
No wonder Terraria is so awesome, coming from people that are so awesome.
Really good of them. I wish some others developers do the same, it’d be really great for the open source engines.
Huge W for godot
I love the part where they’re like " we don’t even use unity except for some random assets", just a nice fuck you cherry on top.
Hell yeah, love to see it!
200k is a false number: They donated $100k and 1k per month to Godot.Edit: yeah - didn’t actually read the whole article. You guys were right.
There’s 2 game engines listed. Both for $100k and $1k/month.
So the $200k is correct and a further $1k/month on top of that.
Ah, to be able to read lmao
Truly a blessing and a curse
Well said
$100k each to two projects is $200k
“dum dum 666” at it again.
You keep being you, broGlad to have a Warm Soda as an admirer - there‘ll be more entertainment for you to come.
And another 100k and 1k monthly to the FNA engine. I wasn’t aware of that engine until today, but it looks like I have a couple of games that run on it.
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Very funny how invested people are in this.
Well, I like playing video games and this will affect the video games I like playing.
I’m not a game developer, but if Unity got everyone to roll over with that TOS change I’m sure that devs would use this as a new justification to increase costs for games or higher subscription fees for services like Gamepass.
It’s important to be invested and informed in the things that matter to you.
Yeah, but through like two to three layers of abstraction. I like beer, but I don’t give a shit about the contractual details of malt distribution. Games are still gonna be made, this is just something for people to project their impotent rage at.
I’m not a game dev but I’m a dev so I can easily see how this can affect them.
If you’re uninterested that’s fine, no need to insult those that do.
Well shit. Some people actually care about the people who produce whatever it is you consume. It’s crazy, I know. If the people who are growing the malt for my beer, or processing it, or delivering it, or whatever… are getting screwed over I would be equally concerned. But by all means, continue to be a consumer pacman just gobbling up whatever it is that falls in front of your face. That’s what the world is trying to mold you into anyway. Why fight it?
Oh please get over yourself. If you consume games you are already actively supporting the screwing over of people in like five different industries the world over. This price hike in one piece of software is just your “thing” to get righteously mad about this week.
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I just set myself a timer for a month to remind me to ask you about your opinions on this topic. I’m sure you’ll still be heavily invested by then.
You’re cute. I like you.
If the contractual details of malt distribution were going to affect the quality of beers you were getting then you absolutely would care. Unity’s pay scheme will lead to studios shutting down if there isn’t pushback. Studios switching to a different engine like Godot will make their games feel different for better or for worse and efforts to help fund these alternate engines will help tip the scale towards that being “for better”.
But most importantly of all, this is a company using toxic and predatory practices. Regardless of the industry (yes, malt distributors too), if we don’t push back against toxic business practices, then companies in many different industries will see avenues they can take advantage of to make extra money. These ideas don’t hang in isolation. If Unity’s scheme works, other businesses will learn from it. This is the reality of capitalism. Whatever methods can turn a profit without generating negative attention will be employed. It’s in the hands of consumers, competing businesses, and the government to keep those toxic practices in check. I mean, why the fuck are we on Lemmy? Ultimately Reddit’s actions are not going to affect the majority of users on their platform. Most of us came here to protest shitty business practices.
I’m here because I’m permad on reddit. And reddit will be fine, we can stop pretending that a bunch of Linux nerds jumping ship makes a difference.
Well that explains it.
Hi. I’m a brewer. You might not care about malt distribution but maybe you can understand that a lot of breweries run on small margins. If we suddenly have to pay a lot more for malt we will either have to raise our prices or go out of business. Raising prices might also drive us out of business because less people will be inclined to buy our beer. So it does affect you as a consumer, whether you care or not.
We live in a society. Everything affects the consumer, doesn’t mean I have to care about everything. Distribution of malt is your problem, not mine.
Yes. Everything affects the consumer. That’s why some consumers care about it. I don’t understand why you can’t wrap your head around that.
Wow you’re so detached and cool bro… like you just don’t care.
Wow bro that’s so cool of you how you don’t care about things, can I suck you off or do you not care about that either
Uh, I totally don’t care about anything either.
I feel like there’s a sinister plot inside of this post.
Except it becomes your problem if beer suddenly starts getting priced higher and higher and higher over time to the point where you can’t afford it anymore?
I like coffee, but I prefer to source my beans from places I can trust. People lost trust in Unity so they ain’t gonna use the engine anymore. Blown out of proportion? Yeah maybe, but I agree with the core concept
Yeah but YOU consume the beans. The only difference the engine makes is the logo on startup.
…what. He just made an analogy about not consuming unethical beans. That’s literally his point. So no, he does not consume the beans.
This is not a great comparison tbh. Unity are not distributing a resource, you could rather compare them to a company building the motor for the car you use. Even as the end customer, their product is clearly perceivable and distinguishable from competitors’ products. You don’t need to build cars to have an opinion on Unity motors and the ethics of their business. And if they fuck every contractor over and abuse their power in the market to retroactively charge additional fees for every time someone starts a car with their motor in it, of course you would be directly hit with the consequences as a customer. Therefore, it is justified to not leave this discussion to car manufacturers, but to 1. let unity motors know that they can go fuck themselves and 2. to support more ethical motor manufacturers in the future by buying cars built with them.
I read today that about half the games are made with unity, imagine if most of those pulled the games you purchased so it can’t be installed again. That is a huge hit to gaming.
7 Days to Die, Escape from Tarkov, Wasteland 2, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, Cities: Skylines, Dungeons 3, Cult of the Lamb, Endless Space 1 and 2, Outerwilds,
Well they obviously won’t. It’s always the same with these things, they either come to terms, or the producers will pay up, or the reports are overblown or whatever. Just like reddit didn’t lose half its userbase after the API switch, or Youtube doesn’t crumble because everyone throws a fit when they add another commercial slot and swears to move to “pipetube” or whatever (lol). But thank god we’re all really really invested in something that is essentially corporate politics.
It’s not corporate politics if it’s going to have an effect on the end users. You’d be surprised at how big of an impact this will have, if they don’t backpedal this and cancel it entirely, and even if they do it could still an impact.
Stop feeding the dipshit. Not worth your energy.
Yeah? Even ignoring how the results of this will determine how companies try this is the future (because they WILL), this shit is like classical Greek drama, watching someone fall because of their hubris.