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Doesn't CrowdStrike have more important things to do right now than try to take down a parody site?

That's what IT consultant David Senk wondered when CrowdStrike sent a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown notice targeting his parody site ClownStrike.

Senk created ClownStrike in the aftermath of the largest IT outage the world has ever seen—which CrowdStrike blamed on a buggy security update that shut down systems and incited prolonged chaos in airports, hospitals, and businesses worldwide....

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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 259 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead increases public awareness of the information.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 39 points 3 months ago
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone is racing Elon in an "any % speed run to completely destroy an established companies credibility."

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Elom should buy CrowdStrike, rename it clownstrike, send the DMCA, and then run it into the ground like Twitter.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no here. Businesses by and large won't stop using them because of this. And if they succeed, it's a deterrent for others.

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 220 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sounds like they could use some more sites linking to them to improve SEO. https://clownstrike.lol/

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 57 points 3 months ago

This. This is why we invented the internet. Well this and porn.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Full Streisand effect.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's blocked on my work computer, saying it's a malware website

[–] All_Your_Base@feddit.cl 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"The category of https://clownstrike.lol/ is Phishing

This site has been reviewed recently. We are not accepting category change requests at this time."

Fortinet filter lmao

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[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 months ago

Accessible through my corporate network. Fun thing, that.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

That was a good read with him documenting and sharing everything.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 204 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Using the DMCA as a censorship tool needs to be a criminal offense subject to jail time.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why that’s literally what it was designed to do

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DMCA was designed to prevent intellectual property infringement, not as a censorship tool.

[–] Ransack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's exactly what the person you replied to was saying.

DMCA was built to save IP, however it's routinely abused and used for censorship. And not a single thing is done to the abusers so they continue with their nonsense.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No they literally said that DMCA was designed for censorship...

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[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It is, but this isn't. The DMCA doesn't mention Trademark. That's a separate section of law because copyright and trademark are different things.

Crowdstrike submitting a DMCA takedown for alleged Trademark infringement isn't how it's supposed to work at all. Likely because they know this isn't actually a Trademark infringement case.

Cloudflare's automated system not being smart enough to see that is fine. Their abuse/counterclaim process being broken isn't. ( Not that that's new or unique )

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Agreed 100%, it's tactics similar to slapp lawsuits, and either shouldn't be allowed and require jail time when abused

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 149 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lmao what a legend. How would DMCA even apply in this case though? Parodies are free speech

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 160 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don't. Companies regularly abuse DMCA notices because the law REQUIRES a hosting company to take down the information immediately.

It allows 14 days for the same information to be restored after receiving a counter notice.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think if DMCAs are abused, it should limit the company's ability to file one in the future.

and if not... regular people could do the same

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Laws only apply to poor people. If you submit a bogus DMCA that takes down a corporation's site, they will sue you so hard your children's children will be paying off the debt.

It's all by design. The level of damage is measured by capital, and not by how illegitimate, anti-competitive, immoral, or criminal the actions are. There aren't any multipliers to level the playing field against their wealth and power. All of the multipliers are in their favor.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't see anything on that site that infringes the DMCA. At best they might have a trademark violation claim, but DMCA is only for copyright claims, not trademark claims.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 127 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

https://clownstrike.lol/crowdmad/

This line:

P.S. Don’t your lawyers have more important shit to be doing right now anyway?

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[–] dan@upvote.au 71 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don’t see anything on the parody ClownStrike site that infringes the DMCA. At best, Crowdstrike might have a valid trademark infringement claim, but DMCA is only for copyright infringement claims, not trademark claims.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, Cloudflare never received either of Senk's counter notices, which is a problem since Cloudflare only allows a 72-hour window to contest a takedown notice.

This sounds like ClownFlare outright lying through its teeth. Probably not even to defend ClownStrike, but to not look incompetent.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's time to expand the Clown-Empire and add ClownSocialServices.lol and ClownFlare to its Vassals.
What do we call the head of state? The Witish Clown?

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They should have used their software to bring it down. We all know that will do it.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 months ago

...provided it runs on CrowdStrike-protected systems. I would expect the site's operator to make sure to avoid that if they can help it.

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[–] ramune@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I support the right of clowns to strike for whatever reason

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They've gotta do something in the face of ballooning expenses...

[–] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well everyone nose about inflation, but what about a clown's right to shoes?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Shoes? They could use a bigger car first. Have you seen how many people they have to cram in there?

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Helium prices are TOO DAMN HIGH

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

told Ars that he has no plans to move ClownStrike back to Cloudflare's hosting service. Instead, he responded by suggesting that Cloudflare update its abuse-reporting system to confirm receipt of counter notices, build a web portal where users can track abuse reports,

Good suggestions

and perhaps most significantly, revoke CSC's ability to submit abuse reports as a penalty for sending a bogus takedown

Pretty sure they can't. DMCA has strict rules that providers must follow to avoid liability.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine believing that large enough companies would be so heinous as to follow the law. What villains they'd be!

/s

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 51 points 3 months ago

way to go, dorks. now i've heard of this site that i would have never heard of if you hadn't streissanded it. and i for one approve

[–] troybot@midwest.social 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My name is Nathan Fielder, And I graduated from one of Canada's top business schools with really good grades.

The plan: turn this website into the world's first parody cybersecurity platform

[–] __init__@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We will call it… Dumb Crowdstrike.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Clown Strike’s only real crime is kerning.

[–] snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

thats not kerning, that's justification ☝️🤓️

kerning refers to the spacing between individual letters in the words, and justification is a method of typograghic alignment where space between words is stretched to make text flush with both left and right margins

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[–] sunzu@kbin.run 19 points 3 months ago

I am kinda PO'ed I didn't come up with this on my own lol

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 3 months ago

they should update their homepage to a forced download of an empty index.html

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

Maybe laylow and STFU crowdstrike? You know what never mind, pour fuel on the fire burning below you - go out screaming you turds.

[–] Sentient_Modem@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

Funny that clownstrike.com redirects to crowdstrike.com. I tried this before seeing the .lol domain. Lol

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

While parody sites are not the intended target of these efforts, it’s possible for such sites to be inadvertently impacted. We will review the process and, where appropriate, evolve ongoing anti-fraud activities.

Hmm, I think I've heard something like that before...

But it pledged Wednesday to keep software glitches like last week’s from happening again, and to publicly release a more detailed analysis when it becomes available.

The company added that it is developing a new check for its validation system “to guard against this type of problematic content from being deployed in the future.

"Oops!"

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