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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 128 points 3 months ago

Immunity for official acts, biatch

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If this was an official order the orange man would be past tense.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Exoranganary man

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (9 children)
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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 71 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That hit was so unprofessional, i.e. it missed, that I would sooner believe it was faked than official. But much more likely the violent rhetoric caused unrest in the person's mind.

Even so, the spin machine will figure out how best to "use" it, over the next few days.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the least, but the fact that some random guy in the crowd saw the shooter on the roof but not one of the many Secret Service agents there noticed a sniper has me at least open to the idea that it was fake. It's not like Trump's team don't know that plenty of Republicans are just looking for an excuse to violently support their dear leader.

But I agree that it's more likely that someone just snapped.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Even so, the spin machine will figure out how best to "use" it, over the next few days.

Oh, they didn't even need to wait a few days. Trump himself managed to turn it into a golden ticket for rallying republican support and encouraging his diehard supporters to start another violent insurrection.

And all he did was stand back up, raise his first, and say "fight" to his crowd. We are so, so fucked.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

"Oh, was assassinated? See, you shouldn't have tried it on July 13, liberal!"

I can see it now.

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if Biden wanted Trump dead, Trump would be dead.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And we'd all be a lot better off.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago

Ah, a legal assassination attempt then. Thanks SCOTUS!

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 45 points 3 months ago

Why is this a Problem? The Republican Extreme Court just made this LEGAL!

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 months ago

Well if it was an official act it was fine for him to do so.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“We have to get over it”

—Donald Trump

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

He didn’t, because if he had, flags would be at half-staff now. But even if he had… so what? Biden is now immune from prosecution for that anyways.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Collins followed up with another tweet calling for the local county prosecutor to “immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

I thought that he was the president, congressman. What did SCOTUS just decide?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Only when he's a Republican.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

That took longer than I'd expected.

Republicans: we made it legal for the president to against political opponents.

Also Republicans: no not Biden!

Biden: I like ice cream, Jack!

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But he has total immunity tho. You said so yourself.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

They meant for them, not anyone else. Same as always for the GOP.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I don't think an official presidential assassin would miss 12 times

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden just need a simple response

"Mine don't miss"

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish he had the balls to say something like that.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Biden did, he wouldn't miss.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

And it would be legal!

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If he did, it wouldn’t be illegal.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

"An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect."

If Biden did an assassination, the supreme court would find a way to determine it was not an official act.

When Trump does assassinations, the same court will (deliberate future tense now) find these things permissible.

That's how conservatism has always worked, and this is the same. But worse.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,

"So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward..."


  • how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.

  • the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything

  • his first and only focus was his shoes?

  • a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?

  • secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let's him vamp and pose

  • straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling

  • yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?

  • yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).

  • his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)

  • this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.

  • watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you stop spamming it literally everywhere

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You mean once each in the 30 threads discussing the same topic? Yes, I won't post this response more than once in those threads.

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[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.

  1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there's a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so... They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?

  2. "Supposed" gunman. I like how you pivot from "this is probably set up" to "ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse"

  3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We're going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate... No one heard the plan and thought "oh this is a bad idea" and spoke out about it?

  4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.

  5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There's always a convenient time.

  6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn't have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That's ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter's location and took him down before Trump even got up.

There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fat white man immediately comes to aid of fat orange man

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have the same haircut too...

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This guy not know his party made presidents kings?

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Excuse you, that only applies to (R) presidents? It should be obvious that (D) presidents remain subject to the law. /s

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Anything for outrage. Also, pay really fucking close attention here. Every accusation is an admission, which means they're definitely planning such actions if trump wins, and the SCOTUS just made it legal.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

Stop trying to convince people he's cool like that.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's one thing if some idiot maga moron says this shit on twitter. But this is an officially elected house representative. What a joke.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I'd have agreed with you a decade ago, but there hasn't been a clear separation between "random moron on Twitter" and "dumbest Republicans in Congress" for a WHILE now..

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

To think though, since the supreme court ruling that wouldn't have been a crime.

[–] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 7 points 3 months ago
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, Biden did it because he would totally do something like that, just like Collins here looks like a person with reasonable views, a good head on his shoulders, and who values his country over pushing a political agenda.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

Biden should have him killed lol

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