• carbonprop@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    What’s happening in the US isn’s even considered conservatism anymore. It’s the MAGA cult. I am definitely left, but conservatives don’t always need to be bad. It just so happens that the Republican Party has filled itself with people serving themselves and not the people who voted for them. Fingers crossed things go well this November.

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      10 months ago

      Fascism is the natural result of unchecked conservatism. We are watching that natural progression play out now.

      We’ve let conservatism go unchecked for so long that I think it will take physical action to stop the fascist infection at this point.

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        10 months ago

        Fascism is also the natural result of unchecked progressivism. Since what you mean by “fascist” is just “Authoritarian.”

        Clearly, as we’ve seen globally and historically, Authoritarianism is the rule rather than the exception whenever extreme right and left wing politics go unchecked. Internally, the left wing Soviets appeared pretty much identical to the right wing Nazis in function, since their attempt at implementing communism was just a state/party run economy.

        I’m so sick of this revisionist history “if we just keep going left nothing “fascist”/Authoritarian can ever happen” bullshit.

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          Fascism is also the natural result of unchecked progressivism.

          Can you give an example? You cited 1940’s Russia, but Soviet Marxist-Leninism was not progressivism. It was also not leftism, despite decades of conservative deception on this topic.

          Marxist–Leninists in the Soviet Union were famously opposed to “left communism” and social democracy. They openly opposed liberal democracy. They also supported an authoritarian style of government, which is definitionally opposite of progressivism.

          Here’s a link to a wikipedia page on the ideological foundation of the Soviet Union (Marxist-Leninism) to support my position that their government was neither “left” nor “progressive”. The points in my paragraph above are stated almost verbatim in this wikipedia entry.

          To use the Soviet Union as an example of a left or progressive government, you would first need to change the definitions of “left” or “progressive”.

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          10 months ago

          Oh, I’d love to know which extreme left wing politics have gone unchecked.

          I bet it’s “treating LGBTQ people as humans worthy of dignity.” That really seems to piss off conservatives.

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      10 months ago

      When was the last time there was a conservative president in the US who didn’t cause tremendous lasting damage to the country?

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        10 months ago

        Eisenhower(?) at the very least id say any damage he may have done was at least somewhat offset by good done. But he was still very much part of the new deal era so he is moreso the exception, besides him im pulling blanks both before and after.

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        Depends on your definitions. You could even say Lincoln (conservative or not) caused lasting damage through failing to prevent a civil war and then getting assassinated before finishing the affairs