What’s the phrase again? Oh yes, turnabout is fair play. We need to clone Zelensky.
I wish we had a Zelensky here in the U.S. to help us combat conservatism.
That would be John Stuart, if he ever decided to run for office. And holy fuck, he’d kill it. I mean, he says he doesn’t want to do it, but he knows more about policy, politics, and how the game is played than most politicians.
I get it, I wouldn’t want to either, but daaaaamn. He’d rip conservative a politics about 5 new assholes.
Yeah, Stewart is the hero we need but don’t deserve.
you know what they say, it’s exactly the type of people that don’t want to that should.
What’s happening in the US isn’s even considered conservatism anymore. It’s the MAGA cult. I am definitely left, but conservatives don’t always need to be bad. It just so happens that the Republican Party has filled itself with people serving themselves and not the people who voted for them. Fingers crossed things go well this November.
Fascism is the natural result of unchecked conservatism. We are watching that natural progression play out now.
We’ve let conservatism go unchecked for so long that I think it will take physical action to stop the fascist infection at this point.
Fascism is also the natural result of unchecked progressivism. Since what you mean by “fascist” is just “Authoritarian.”
Clearly, as we’ve seen globally and historically, Authoritarianism is the rule rather than the exception whenever extreme right and left wing politics go unchecked. Internally, the left wing Soviets appeared pretty much identical to the right wing Nazis in function, since their attempt at implementing communism was just a state/party run economy.
I’m so sick of this revisionist history “if we just keep going left nothing “fascist”/Authoritarian can ever happen” bullshit.
Fascism is also the natural result of unchecked progressivism.
Can you give an example? You cited 1940’s Russia, but Soviet Marxist-Leninism was not progressivism. It was also not leftism, despite decades of conservative deception on this topic.
Marxist–Leninists in the Soviet Union were famously opposed to “left communism” and social democracy. They openly opposed liberal democracy. They also supported an authoritarian style of government, which is definitionally opposite of progressivism.
Here’s a link to a wikipedia page on the ideological foundation of the Soviet Union (Marxist-Leninism) to support my position that their government was neither “left” nor “progressive”. The points in my paragraph above are stated almost verbatim in this wikipedia entry.
To use the Soviet Union as an example of a left or progressive government, you would first need to change the definitions of “left” or “progressive”.
Fascism is also the natural result of unchecked progressivism.
u wot.
Oh, I’d love to know which extreme left wing politics have gone unchecked.
I bet it’s “treating LGBTQ people as humans worthy of dignity.” That really seems to piss off conservatives.
Nothing about human rights is extreme in any capacity, and not even remotely what im talking about.
I noticed you still didn’t give an example.
truth bro
When was the last time there was a conservative president in the US who didn’t cause tremendous lasting damage to the country?
Eisenhower(?) at the very least id say any damage he may have done was at least somewhat offset by good done. But he was still very much part of the new deal era so he is moreso the exception, besides him im pulling blanks both before and after.
Depends on your definitions. You could even say Lincoln (conservative or not) caused lasting damage through failing to prevent a civil war and then getting assassinated before finishing the affairs
Every time someone blames Lincoln for the Civil War, James Buchanan edges to completion in heaven
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Without looking up the answer, tell me approximately how long Lincoln was president before the Civil War started.
You guys have Jon Stewart, unfortunately he does not want to get into politics.
You nailed it! He is exactly who I was thinking of.
Thanks for making another thread not about US only about US politics.
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As someone born in the Russia, I support Zelensky looking at the old borders of the Kievan Rus.
From White to Black sea, Ukraine will be free
The problem is determining what from that period constitutes “Ukrainian” or “Russian”. The old “Rus peoples” were a lot of relatively different yet also similar groups, that homogenize and heterogenize across time depending on different political and social conditions, which at a certain point in time during the modern age some intellectuals try to categorize and end up reaching some sort of consensus with “Russian”, “Byelorussian” and “Ukrainian”.
In the end, forgetting this kind of nuance invites people who are a little shaky on the head to come up with pan-nationalist narratives that justify some sort of anachronistic imperialism. It’s already bad enough that Putin’s Z-morons are trying to appropriate Ukrainian identity as a breakaway of their own to justify ethnic cleansing, let’s not have some Ukrainians that try and do the same but in reverse.
