Bill Gates wants ultra-wealthy individuals to pay more tax — and now a growing chorus of billionaires agree.

In his annual “Ask Me Anything” forum on Reddit last year, the Microsoft cofounder said he was “surprised” that taxes for the rich haven’t been increased more.

Gates doubled down on his calls to tax the rich in a panel at the World Economic Forum in Davos this week. He said the wealthiest nations should donate more money to developing countries to help redress inequality.

“Those who have the most — whether it’s countries, companies, or individuals — should be pushed to be more generous,” he said.

It seems others agree, as more than 250 ultra-wealthy people signed an open letter calling for global leaders to impose a wealth tax.

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    10 months ago

    How about backing up that letter with some lobbyists?

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    “I’m surprised the thing me and my ilk have been actively working against hasn’t magically happened despite our massive efforts to the opposite effect.”

    Bet you Bill thinks these kinds of publicity stunts will exclude him from being eaten, when we go to eat the rich.

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        Irrelevant to this tax thing but Bill Gates still helping known patent trolls obtain more patents

        Bill Gates is widely known for massive hypocrisy. And funneling his “Charity” money into vaccine companies he owns himself. And buying up an insane amount of farm land during Covid.

        If Bill Gates says something you can bet that he’s doing the exact opposite. There’s a reason that this “charity man” somehow keeps getting richer.

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        By being part of the billionaire owner class for decades and saying nothing about it until there’s very real threats of working class solidarity.

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        Is he funding lobbyists to affect this kind of change? No.
        Is he employing top tier accountants to make sure he doesn’t pay his fair share like the poors? Betcha.
        Does he funnel his wealth into charitable foundations that are a tax write off leading to him getting money rather than having to pay it, while it stays in an eco system he has full control over? Betcha.
        Is he buying expensive art, property, etc. to incur expenses that are tax write offs? Betcha.

        Since I’m not a Billionaire, I won’t be able to tell you all the ways that cunt is 100% pushing for a status quo while putting out fluff pieces like these that make him look good while doing literally nothing to affect the change he supposedly wants.

        Wouldn’t even be surprised if this was something to get out ahead of some revelations about tax evasion, so if you ever search up Bill Gates taxes, all you get is this curated nonsense of what a stand up good lad he is, trying oh so hard to pay his fair share. Why won’t anyone take his money? Poor Bill. Must be hard not getting taxed and being utterly powerless to do anything about that. Shucks. Now he has to go another decade without ever coming close to paying his fair share.

        Oh, also garbage takes like these, where he publicly opposed new tax plans - but it’s fine, it was all cute and the audience laughed and he payed soooo much, sooo many taxes. https://youtu.be/dXxP4S_WwS0

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      I’ve come to the right place if bill gates isn’t cheered on by leftwingers… Dude has such a sketchy past especially regarding intellectual property and market manipulation.

      But “at least he doesn’t support trump”

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        He probably is through some back-ass-channel. These kinds of assholes always play all colors, all cards and have backup plans. He still wants to cling to his little riches even if the political winds change again. Gotta be able to show receipts when that happens.

        I’ll never support a single Billionaire ever for any reason whatsoever. They’re leeches and parasites to society, our species and planet.

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    Says the guy that fought tooth and nail for MRNA vaccination patents to remain private. Yeah pay taxes but maybe don’t make the money to begin with.

    actions > words

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    People are right to point out that he should not simply cut a check to the government, instead he should lobby for higher wealth taxes like he lobbies for patents or voucher schools. Anything less is just free PR.

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      Yeah I’m all for some much needed tax reform but on the flipside can you imagine what the current form of government would do with all the money from tax revenue? They would fuckin blow it and we’d be fucked all over again.

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        Our current government is all too happy to build weapons with borrowed money. What taxation does is it causes deflation, and a wealth tax has the benefit of deflating the power of the ultra-wealthy.

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    Says the guy who funnels his entire wealth through a foundation to avoid paying any taxes. Just like he told Epstein to do. Love you Bill

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        I mean, isn’t that the definition of owning a company? You profit off of the work your employees do

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          Even when we pretend that’s ok, and pretend that his policy of “embrace, extend, exterminate” is also fine, he personally stole other people’s work. He straight up admited stealing from Xerox (along with Steve Jobs), and stole MS-DOS from Gary Kildall.

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      ¯_(ツ)_/¯ At least bill is probably the most generous billionaire that has existed so far

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    Literally nothing is stopping any of them from cutting a massive check to the government. This is lip service to stop people from hating on the billionaire class.

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      Except the issue is systemic. You have a percentage of mega wealthy who simply don’t even pay their share. A few billionaires sending a large check to the government doesn’t fix anything. They could but until we change the way we handle taxes for the wealthy, we have a systemic problem we need to fix.

      Speaking out that all the rich should pay more helps (maybe) make the case that those making hella bank should pay more.

      Your statement is a bit of a straw man which doesn’t actually address the fact that the mega rich aren’t paying their fair share.

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        Except I wholeheartedly agree with you. There is a huge issue here, but at the same time if these billionaires truly believe that they should be paying more, they should just… do it. There is literally nothing stopping them. They should be forced to, yes, and that’s what they’re saying. But they should be putting their money where their mouths are in the meantime.

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          Ah I see. I apologize if my comment came off as overly rude. I have heard the comment of them sending money as a reason to do nothing.

          I assumed you were advocating we do nothing, which to me implies keep the taxes low on the rich and just let them send whatever they want.

          I think saying that their taxes should be raised is doing something. Sending extra cash money into the giant money pit is kinda pointless until we address the military industrial complex getting the lion’s share and we start using the money more effectively.

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          The billionaires complaining about wealth taxes, should lead by example by paying them at the same time lobbying governments to fix the issue.

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          The man is covering like 11% of the WHO budget. On the one hand I want to say that that’s too much power, OTOH he doesn’t do too terribly a job at allocating money (compared to, say, the IMF) and every man deserves a hobby.

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      They buy politicians left and right, but THIS issue is completely out of their hands.

      Hang on, my eyes rolled so far back I need to cough them up now

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      If you are cutting massive checks for the social good, private charitable organizations are typically better stewards of the money than the government. Unless you want the military to have more fighter jets, I suppose

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      If you think billionaires paying more taxes to governments will mean better lives for the poor then oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you.

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        It means better lives for those poor executives of military contractors. Think of Lockheed-Martin’s children!

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    Bill Gates should either shut his stupid fucking mouth or put his insanely exorbitant amount of money where that stupid fucking mouth is. Oh, he is a philanthropist and supports many causes and charities? No, he is an ultra wealthy individual who hordes his insane amount of wealth and has so much of it that he can casually drop seven plus figures in to any cause he wants, collect accolades from the public for it, and make that money back by the end of the fucking hour. Fuck bill gates

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      Not to mention he got a fake divorce from his wife for monetary purposes

      Or that he wasnt even a struggling inventor like the stories have us believe, his mom was on the board for IBM ffs

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      I think he donated half his wealth and convinced other billionaires to do the same a few years back.

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    They can flap their lips all they want, I won’t believe them til they lobby for it and it gets changed.

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      It’d be really cool if Gates and other not-so-evil megarich would just openly give a bag of money to every congressman to vote for more taxes to multimillionaires :)

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    “should be pushed to be more generous”

    Generosity my arse. Should be forced to pay their way. The rest of us cannot afford them.

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    Pretty sure I’ve seen this exact story about every 5 years for the last 20 years. It looks to me at this point like wealth apologism.

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      That’s funny. I swear he has always said that he believes that he can do more good in the world by controlling how his wealth is spent through his charity foundations, than simply handing his wealth over to the government via taxes.

      I.E., he has been saying the opposite. Unless this is taken out of context

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      There are some rich people who recognize that higher taxes are actually good for them in the long-term by increasing growth and decreasing income inequality (which in the long-term, leads to rolling heads). But it’s a Prisoner’s Dilemma style situation - if they, as individuals, donate additional wealth to the government, nothing happens except that their own wealth makes a tiny little drip in the ocean, and their competitors then benefit at no cost to themselves. But if the government imposes a uniform levy on them all, then the cost and the benefits are evenly applied, instead of one ‘suffering’ (and I use the term very loosely) and the others slightly benefiting.

      My point here isn’t to lionize them, because ultimately most of them are voicing this opinion out of personal interest, not morality. But it is probably a sincerely held personal interest, rather than pantomime.

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      I don’t understand this comment. It’s some psuedo-leftist aggression. How can you pay extra taxes? Just not file and get a return? I have filed my own taxes for 20 years and never seen “do you want to pay more?” Other than contributing to the Presidental fund. The only thing I can come up with is not filing after already paying. That’s tax evasion.

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        You give a contribution to the Treasury Department under their Gifts to Reduce Debt Held by the Public program. In 2022, this amounted to just $180,310.32.

        While you can argue that “that isn’t taxes though!”, it is essentially accomplishing the same thing but obviously not taxes because a donation isn’t a ‘tax’. With ~$180,000 from 2022, it is clear this is more bullshit than meaningful intent.

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          Well it isn’t the same thing and not what my point is, but good to know. I appreciate the comment. However I was asking what the mechanism in paying taxes was to pay more. This is not that.

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      Honestly, if you have the option, it’s a pretty simple choice - put it into a charity you know will help people or overpay taxes and watch the money be guzzled by the military.

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    For every one of him, there are probably thousands of neuvo riche and wannabe rich who say otherwise. It’s an unfortunate truth.

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    “if only someone would close the loop holes, but alack, they remain and the accountants force me to use them, what ever is to become of poor rich Bill”

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      Sad bit is, you don’t even have to use loopholes. Certain forms of income that are more common amongst the wealthy are simply less taxed than regular income.

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        Yup, capital gains tops out at 15%.

        Thats right Walmart workers, stock gambling is taxed less than your hard earned wages!