just saying this would be reason enough for him to lose his job in any civilized country
Credible threat to kill earns you up to 10 years
All I hear is if you want to attack us make sure you kill us because if you don’t we will kill you
Is that the message sheriff donut?
It’s like they forget that can happen, or why there’s an escalation ladder
Yep.
That’s what I read.
That’s what I heard.
Yeah that’s called escalating. If the Nazi’s policy is to kill on sight, the solution is to kill the Nazi before it sees you.
That dude is basically ordering Florida civilians to engage cops in guerilla warfare.
Nice police-work, dipshit. 👍
Profoundly stupid for this fool to show his face on camera while openly threatening to kill American citizens.
But he’s a Trump supporter, so being profoundly stupid is par for the course.
If things actually did pop off in this country, anyone that has shown their face on camera in opposition to the American people will not be safe.
Thanks god for that - if things truly do go to hell I’ll take immense joy in watching these fascists get their comeuppance , helping when I can too!
IF they go to hell? you’re already there.
Not just profoundly stupid, but proudly so as well
Dude, they’ll be given an amnesty and remain where they are.
What’s your stop someone from creating an app of top 10,000 worst people or something similar?
There it is. Law enforcement has openly declared to kill protesters. You now know that you must fight them like your life depends on it, because they have admitted their intent.
This is exactly the behavior your 2nd amendment rights are meant to protect you from. They are ready & excited to kill you. What are you willing to do to stop them?
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No shade, but this is a simplistic understanding of the dynamics at play.
Protests go like this : slow & joyful start, march, sing, march some more, have a good time, then at some point a smoke grenade triggers somewhere behind you. Did anyone see where it came from? If someone did, their eyewitness account is immediately drowned in the crowd trying the flee from the fumes. Some light panic ensues : not everybody knows what the movement is about, what the danger is, and that’s very scary. The handful of people who saw the cop roll the grenade shout, or possibly send it back towards the cop line. This small commotion is used as casus belli, because that’s all they’re waiting for : an excuse to beat people to death.
This is from experience of protests in France (mostly Marseille)
English might be my second language but I think both of you are agreeing that the police said they’re gonna kill people
Well, you heard it here. It’s perfectly fine to shoot cops with AR-15s if they shoot you with rubber bullets. If they can kill you for tossing a brick, you can kill them for shooting people unprovoked with “less lethal” munitions. Those rubber bullets are just as dangerous as bricks, and the cops are shooting them with impunity. By their own logic, any officer that shoots a rubber bullet at someone deserves to have their head blown off.
Grew up there, Ivey is a white supremacist and a terrible sheriff and person.
We’re noticing, yes
Are you certain he’s a person?
dehumanization is generally ill advised, but sometimes it just makes so much sense
He forfeited his tolerance contract.
Is self dehumanizing a thing? Because I think this guy is doing that.
Sounds like he’s wanting to replace the disgraced and convicted Joe Arpaio in fascist minds.
Some of those that work forces…
It just doesn’t stop playing in my head.
This is why I went from supporting gun control to not supporting it anymore. Cops should absolutely fear armed protesters in all countries.
Yup.
Been for strict gun control all my life. And, in a decent country, I still would be.
But this isn’t a decent country. It’s a country full of low-IQ fools and fascists and racists, so it’s time to get armed and prepare for the worst, which appears to be where we’re headed.
Guns will not stop a tank, fighter jet or nuclear armed submarine. Does the outdated second armament go far enough?
Tanks can burn
Jets struggle against individual personnel
I don’t really give a damn about nukes because it sounds like a fast death
You cannot occupy an area without exposed boots on the ground and those footsoldiers are absolutely susceptible to small arms
Stop giving up because it sounds hard
How do you fight the NSA though? Whne they tag you as a dissident, and the government freezes your assets and accounts. You are denied medical treatment and employment. Added to no fly lists, no travel lists etc etc. This is how the fascists maintain control, using the ‘security’ apparatus. This is what you have to contend with.
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Afghanistan was even worse. People often think the Vietnamese were just the Vietcong but often forget that North Vietnam had an army and an air force. The North Vietnamese airforce had far more fighter aces than the US (with the top ace having shot down 9 US aircraft).
Afghanistan with the Taliban had next to nothing. Even when the US tightly controlled ammonium nitrate, which was the mainstay of IEDs they were able to switch to other stuff.
This is in addition to tons upon tons of explosives salvaged from UXOs dating as far back as the Soviet-Afghan war.
A true rebellion in the US would be actually be far deadlier. Americans are much richer than Afghanis ever were and have a fuckload more at their disposal. This is also not discounting that foreign elements who want to see the Trump regime toppled would be more than happy to send in tons of material to whatever opposing side exists, meaning they may not need to rely on shitty IED for long and would have proper factory made explosives and other weapons available.
This is a bit disengenuous though. Vietnam was a war on foreign soil. The vietcong did not have to win, they just had to male it politically and financially untenable for the US to carry on. Same with Afghanistan. It will never be politically or financially untenable for the fascists to keep suppressing the citizens.
Except in this case, half of the “farmers” support the regime.
1 sniper can kill many, many enemy officers. This is a historical precedent.
You don’t need heavy artillery to wage guerilla warfare and cripple an enemy’s operational capabilities.
A bunch of farmers in Vietnam outlasted us using those tactics.
They didn’t just outlast us, they fucking slaughtered us.
You’re not wrong. But with today’s tech its more unlikely that one sniper is going to be as effective. With drones equipped with IR it’s a lot harder to stay hidden. And in a more urban environment, there are cameras everywhere, and the police have access to everyone’s ring doorbell camera, its getting a lot easier for them to track people down.
Im so sick of this argument. Tell me again how we were defeated in Afghanistan? The US military has a horrible track record when fighting against insurgents and guerrillas.
The US is Rome and we are Hannibal’s Army, as long as we don’t choke and refuse to sac Rome we absolutely have the an advantage in a lot of ways
Unlike Afghanistan and Vietnam, there is nowhere for them to leave US.
I’ll let you know as soon as a nuclear armed submarine is rolling down my block
I kinda hope you live in D.C., just because it’d be kinda ironic this weekend…
“The enemy can not press a button… if you have disabled his hand …Medic!”
- Career Sergeant Zim
So, the cops are the bugs in the scenario? The Mobile Infantry approves.
Will they stop pigs like this sheriff?
If we had our own nuclear sub? I’m sure that could help.
Leftist infighting prevents us from forming the peoples’ nuclear navy.
I mean are you really asking me to build a nuclear powered submarine because I know a guy. I know more than a few guys.
So why shouldn’t the protesters shoot to kill as well?
In this county they should apparently.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
By “they” do you me “we?”
Which is less incriminating?
I’m not from the US, but I appreciate the inclusion 💕
Look mom, I have made friends!
That’s the point, they’re inciting violence.
They need the excuse to install a complete police state.
That’s pretty much what they’re stating here–they’re telling protestors in Florida to skip the non-lethal weapons
I hope the reply from protestors is…
We will kill you
If you forget that you are public servants, and you ignore our Constitutional rights, then you have no authority under that same Constitution.
If you hit one of us, then we are going to hit back, and we outnumber you 50-1. If you let the dogs loose on us, then we will kill the dogs, and the officer that looses them, as this is a lethal action with the intent of bodily harm.
If you gas us, or shoot us with “less lethal” weapons, then we will defend ourselves with as much force as necessary. We are exercising our rights as citizens, you are public servants with the express purpose of protecting citizens and upholding our rights. Police authority is written on the back of the social contract that enshrines our rights. You can’t rip up one without ripping up the other.
See you motheruckers on the street.
PS. Every protestor there ought to show up with an open carry, preferably a longarm.
Check your local laws before you open carry. Many cities have outlawed open carry. I’m not even allowed to have a baseball bat in San Diego.
Who cares if something is “against the law” when the law enforcement is corrupt?
Because you’ll be the only one carrying, so they will just arrest you on sight for breaking the law. You have to be thoughtful, they don’t.
You need a critical mass to do that, which we don’t have quite yet.
Also if we get a critical mass, then the NG and Marines get deployed.
Once the NG/Marines get involved, America is completely fucked. The protestors may still outnumber the LEO’s but they have the weapons, training, and experience that evens the playing field.
Which is why Iraq and Afghanistan were decided so quickly.
My 2nd Amendment right transcends such.
For about 30 seconds till they shoot you first for breaking local statutes.
They don’t have to think about their actions, theirs are protected. You have to think about yours. Without outnumbering them 10 to 1, then you’re just throwing away both those rights, and your life. Best case you end up a felon with no 2nd amendment rights. Worst case you end up dead.
Only matters if you show up as an organized armed force; if it’s just you, they’ll just shoot you.
Aren’t ANTIFA organized at times?
I can appreciate and agree with this to some extent, but the entire point of this is to provoke exactly that reaction so that they can justify the horrors they want to carry out.
I can’t think of a counter except to be willing to be the first side shot. then clear out, then the NEXT day return armed. Put that space in there, a clear timeline of how the violence started, who started it, something of record. THEN you come back.
Can you imagine tabling this evidence in a civil case against police brutality. It would be a slam dunk if the US police were accountable like in civilised countries. The fact that they can say it out loud is indicative that the US is beyind fucked.
The US has gone from my let’s organize an intervention for that fuck up friend list to their fucking poison and will drag the rest of us down with them if we don’t keep our distance.
“Police” and “accountable” in the same sentence? In civilized countries it usually takes years and people have to fight the public opinion, politicians’ PR machine and hope that they’ll find a reasonable judge.
This dumb fuck just opened up a world of extra legal fun.
Really hoping someone guns down a nosy PIG abusing their authority and then claims castle doctrine - I mean it’s right there, that dumb pig fuck straight up told you the cops will illegally kill you if you feel like it, and castle doctrine allows you to defend yourself….
in a logical world that would stand to reason, but this is desantisland, where they’ll simply drop a bomb on your house or roll an APC through it. any resistance from the people will be curbstomped because they know they have to make examples if they want to remain in control.
edit: aww the downvote from desantisland makes me laugh
The person to try something like that is not likely to have a lot of capital tied up in any kind of permanent residence.
what makes you take that leap of reasoning?
there are plenty of homeowners in FL who fucking despise ronnyboy.
Weirdest shit was the time I was drunk with a cop buddy. With his cop friends. Who were also getting loose lips and telling stories and one of them checked them all and said. I wasn’t a cop. And not to talk about that stuff around me. Still bothers me. I never saw that friend again. But ya. Wild stuff.
what
They were getting a little too real with their stories. Of getting shot at and doing overall terrible vile actions.
Psycho criminal declaring his illegal intentions aloud
He should be subject to citizens arrest.
Maybe a no knock warrant, middle of the night kind of citizens arrest.
Yeah, except no arrest, just the usual extrajudicial execution that happens.
Damn it’s almost like defunding the police was a necessity and not some radical fringe movement.
Stop trying to make this political.
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