Back in Reddit, you couldn't have a single post about India's space works without the mods locking the threads. I had hoped those fuckers would stay there.
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
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Fuckers are here now.
Congrats to India! Glad to see more space programs succeed.
I'm not. Seems like a waste of money when their children are starving.
"Let's stop all progress until we deal with insert_your_problem_of_choice" has never been a good take, it stifles development without actually helping. In an ideal world that might work, but as is it just doesn't.
To add to that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt that starving children in India is actually a mere money problem. It looks more like a wealth distribution problem, and that one doesn't get fixed by stopping space programs.
You basically said what I was going to, but the ideal world part I disagree with.
A world in which enough is grown to feed everyone and enough profit is produced to meet everyone’s needs doesn’t need to be ideal. It’s a world we live in now.
The above dude should just stick to attacking the ultra wealthy and like you said, not space programs.
But like I was saying, an ideal world isn’t needed. Just about 30% of the rest of us to physically and verbally confront the few thousand or so who take too much.
Lol, what? Where did you get the word 'progress' from? Seems like a loaded argument.
Try to be more direct and don't put words in my mouth. Argue with what I'm saying, not with what sounds nice in your head.
In that case you should formulate your thoughts more clearly. Right now it reads as exactly that — "stop wasting money on progressing in this field because look at this_problem". So, what did you actually mean by your comment then?
"This" problem won't be solved if we keep passing a bunch of money around at the top.
Like I said before, it's a pretty simple concept if you put forth even the slightest amount of effort into understand it.
At this point, if you don't get it then that's on you.
Let's be real though: you're just flustered because you think the disparity in wealth should grow instead of shrink. Just admit it, bro. Then we can all move on with our lives.
Ok, so googling it now, it seems like Indian space program has a budget of about $1,5 mln (holy shit they launched using that? I'm doubly impressed). I'm pretty sure that's just the cost of some couch in the Antilia building.
So I still fail to see your point. This is nothing compared to country's budget, not even a rounding error.
Yeah. Tell that to the starving children it's 'nothing.'
Also, I think that the wealth disparity should decrease as much as possible, and the fact that that's what you got from my comments is just weird.
I'm glad you're willing to say it. Most people are afraid to.
Have you misread my comment or have we been visiting completely different internets? Most of the people who are against wealth inequality are happy to point that out.
No, most of the people I come across are tribalistic to their core.
Since neither tribe is saying, in clear and concise terms, "the disparity in wealth should shrink instead of grow," a lot of people lose sight of what's really going on.
I like to spell it out for them leaving no room for ambiguity. Those who are afraid to answer the question are only like that because they're ashamed of their answer.
“Let’s stop all progress until we deal with insert_your_problem_of_choice” has never been a good take
I mean, sure, most of the time.
But when one is "a shit ton of kids is starving" and the other is "vanity moon mission we don't gain knowledge from"...
Yeah, maybe address the starving kids first.
but I doubt that starving children in India is actually a mere money problem. It looks more like a wealth distribution problem, and that one doesn’t get fixed by stopping space programs.
India flat out said the reason for this program is for PR...
It's not science, it's not innovation, or the pursuit of knowledge.
The reason they've spent decades and billions on this, is to try and seem like India is a 1st world country.
That could also be accomplished by not having one of the world's highest rates of childhood starvation and malnourishment.
Instead they ignore that for "flashier" methods.
India flat out said the reason for this program is for PR...
It's not science, it's not innovation, or the pursuit of knowledge.
What's your source on this?
You know what I think the root cause of any money problem in India is? Corruption. It's corrupt from the very top. It's not exactly easy to fix it with a population that large either. It's a mess and that's why it's a third world country.
Edit: That's one of the reasons it's a third world country. I'm just highlighting what I find wrong.
ISROʼs last lunar exploration mission was in 2019 and called Chandrayaan-2. The lunar orbiter succeeded. The lunar lander, named Vikram, failed, crashing onto the lunar surface. Vikram contained a lunar rover named Pragyan.
Here is Scott Manleyʼs review of the Vikram failure.
Here is a New York Times gift article link about today's (2023-07-14) launch.
Here are animations of the planned orbits (Videos (1,2) by Phoenix777 / 🅭🅯🄎 4.0):
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I'll believe it when it doesn't crash and burn like the last one.
India has a long history of making huge claims, failing, and then claiming that was the goal.
I’ll believe it when it doesn’t crash and burn like the last one.
Check back here on 2023-08-23, then.
Wait, really? Can you think of any examples off the top of your head? I read elsewhere on this thread they had a previous attempt at this mission which crashed and burned (Vikram and Pragyan)