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Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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[–] wolfeh@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago (4 children)

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you're a guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And they kill women.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

[–] Evrala@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And woman a combatant factory?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

They’ll probably start calling grains of sand terrorists.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Anyone past puberty actually.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.

I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they've killed two thousand scores of people. "Scores of women and children" doesn't really do that justice.