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SAO PAULO (AP) — Venezuela’s opposition was dealt a blow Thursday when countries that had been pressuring President Nicolás Maduro to release vote tallies backing his claim to victory in last month’s presidential election began suggesting a repeat of the contest instead.

The proposal from the leftist governments of Brazil and Colombia, both Maduro allies, came less than three weeks after the results of the highly anticipated election came into question when the main opposition coalition revealed it has proof that its candidate defeated the president by a more than 2-to-1 margin.

The opposition categorically rejected any plan to redo the election.

Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, during a virtual news conference with Argentine media, said that repeating the July 28 presidential election would be “an insult” to the people, and she asked if a second election were held and Maduro still didn’t accept the results, “do we go for a third one?”

In Washington, U.S. President Joe Biden expressed support for new elections in comments to reporters that the White House later appeared to back away from.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brazil and Columbia, literally in this article: Do another election with more oversight

Lemming Expert: NOOO WAR IS THE ONLY WAY TO FORCE MADURO OUT >:(

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Another election happens. More oversight. Maduro still says "No, we won". You still say "W-what do you want to do about it??? WAR??? Wouldn't it be so much better if Venezuelans just rolled over and let the fascists stomp all over them? 🥺"

Like, did you forget that there was oversight for this election too? But anything to lick fascist boots, I guess.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Use the international pressure to force them to accept stronger oversight and more secure measures"

"Reeeeee what good will that do I want BLOOD and a FOREIGN REGIME CHANGE"

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

“Use the international pressure to force them to accept stronger oversight and more secure measures”

Again, what does that matter? There was oversight this time. It didn't matter, because the government just said "No, we won." No matter how badly they lose, ultimately, without enforcement mechanisms, from the Venezuelan people or from external support, there is no way to enforce the results of an election. But you know that, of course. You only advocate for people to "Vote harder" when you know it'll do nothing.

My favorite part is where you said it's none of any outside country's business, and now you're arguing the complete opposite; that there should be international pressure to force the issue in Venezuela. 10/10 consistency. Anything to bootlick for fascism, I guess.

Like, you fucking started this conversation saying that Maduro wouldn't give up power even if there was a second election, which pretty nakedly gives up the game when you're arguing that there should be a second election and that violence is unacceptable for the opposition to use.

“Reeeeee what good will that do I want BLOOD and a FOREIGN REGIME CHANGE”

Ah, yes, much different than "Blood and no regime change", but I guess protesters getting gunned down in the streets and shipped off to labor camps is just wholesome left praxis to you, huh? The proles have to turn the other cheek, but the fascist regime gets to kill whoever it wants to.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

?

Israel kills more people every day than Maduro's regime has since the election. I don't see you arguing for an invasion of Israel...

I wonder what the difference is to you. Since you're such a strong anti-fascist, you'd think you'd be more concerned about an active genocide than an internal struggle where, apparently, nothing but boots on the ground will suffice.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Israel kills more people every day than Maduro’s regime has since the election. I don’t see you arguing for an invasion of Israel…

I have openly said previously that I would be in favor of literal war with Israel. So, you know, maybe it's just you that simps for fascist regimes because they're led by 'the right people'.

I wonder what the difference is to you. Since you’re such a strong anti-fascist, you’d think you’d be more concerned about an active genocide than an internal struggle where, apparently, nothing but boots on the ground will suffice.

lmao, keep making up strawmen to attack.