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[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Here is a list of peace offers which would grant the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

1937 - Peel commission, rejected

1947 - Partition resolution, rejected

2000 - Camp David, rejected

2001 - Taba, rejected. Arafat starts the second intifada and a year later changes his mind.

2008 - Olmert offer, rejected

Hamas have tried to agree to boundaries Despite media attempts to portray it as a new Hamas charter, it is not. The new 'policy document' accepts the creation of a Palestinian state in 1967 borders, but still rejects Israel and claims its territory. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103

Here are some other noteworthy peace meeting or proposals from Israel to the rest if the Arab world, which were rejected

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.

1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.

1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.

1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected

1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.

1949: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.

1967: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.

1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).

1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).

1995: Rabin's Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.

2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.

2005: Sharon's peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.

2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.

2009 to 2021: Netanyahu's repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.

2014: Kerry's Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

Not gonna link Trump's imbecilic peace plan as an example.

Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -

None

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Why would they ever accept any "offer" to have their homes and land taken away?

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried finding that video - but I cannot find it in the article. Could you provide a link?

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I am sorry friend, the video seems to have been removed.
I can offer you a link to the detailed 2008 happenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_peace_process#Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_talks_in_2007_and_2008

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the Native Americans for an example of a colonized population that accepted the terms of their colonizers.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Still alive???
Also how is it comonization? According to both religions both own the land. One party accepts the other while the other wants to kill all jews because of my god is bigger.
I will never accept antisemitism.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The general take on Lemmy is: it's okay for Palestinians to become extremists after decades of violence, but for Israelis? no no no sir.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tankies are very noticable right now

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Has it ever occurred to you some people are independent and therefore don't always subscribe to a single tribe?

Probably not, because you're a tribalist projecting your tribalism onto literally everyone else.

In your mind, people are with you or against you. There is no nuance.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats like the complete opposite of what I am like lol

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your previous comment does not reflect that.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because I notice tankies? okay....

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In your mind, people are with you or against you. There is no nuance.

Might wanna brush up on your reading comprehension.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think because i can recognize a tankie, that must be true? Cmon son

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yikes. Just unable to admit when you're wrong, lol.

Good luck. Gonna block you now.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what "I'm wrong" about lol

I can recognize tankies, that much is true. But I'm more of a big tent guy.