• leadore@lemmy.world
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    This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone’s thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they’ll know they’re highly unlikely to get a damn thing.

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        That’s why everyone who cares needs to spread the word.

        People don’t need to care. They might share it as a fun factoid, they might just say that’s crazy and never think about it again

        Until they’re in a position to get a reward… They’ll care then. That little idea they heard in passing will pop up… Maybe it gives them pause.

        $10k is pretty tempting for a lot of people…a chance at a $10k reward they’ve heard rarely is paid out is a lot less tempting

        Maybe they Google it first, maybe they think twice about if the crime is worth reporting. Maybe they see the world in black and white and believe it to be their duty

        It’s worth spreading some information, even to people that don’t care

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        At this point, we don’t know if it’s true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he’s convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!

        Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they’re probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn’t matter much these days – the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I’m saying it should get more attention. People shouldn’t be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.

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          Here y’go: free fries with your purchase of a BigMac. Thanks for supporting law enforcement.

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        https://kpel965.com/mcdonalds-employee-may-not-get-60000-reward-for-tipping-off-police-about-luigi-mangione/

        This one was posted further up. The tl;dr is that because they didn’t call the NYPD tip line, they definitely* won’t get the $10,000 from them, barring major backlash that may make them walk that back.

        The $50,000 from the FBI is up in the air, but is dependent on him getting convicted. There’s some wording that someone else pointed to about the tip needing to lead to an arrest AND conviction, saying that because the tip itself only lead to the arrest, they won’t be paid, but I’m uncertain about that.

        I mentioned in another comment that if the 1% want us to keep snitching, these high profile situations kinda need to pay out.

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        Its pure conjecture, there is no one saying they wont be paid, just some “journalists” saying maybe he wont be paid.

        Maybe this might be one of those cases where fuck the truth of the matter, we should just spread this conjecture as truth. Snitches should imagine stitches not riches.

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      It’s gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook…

      Also if this employee doesn’t get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi’s arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It’s just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further…

      Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.

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    Wait for the next step: the franchise fires the employee because of several 1 star reviews and death threats

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      I’m pretty sure it’s already corporate policy to not question people abour fake bills or do anything to stop shoplifters (because insured and liability). Wouldn’t be surprised if a new corporate policy crops up if something like that does happen

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        Can confirm… store manager.

        I joke that our policy for shoplifters is to offer them a bag.

        In reality it’s to offer them a cart as a non accusatory way of saying “I see you”

        As for bills I had my boss suggest I take them to the bank. I had to clarify “and I tell them I believe there is a counterfeit in there… Right … Otherwise it’s dangerously close to trying to pass a counterfeit myself… A felony…”

        He paused and answered “sure if that makes you more comfortable”

        To be clear I understand and agree with a lot of it. Why should I ask my workers to risk their life over some toothpaste? Why should I ask them to risk their life confronting a counterfeiter who is already done commiting felonies.

        I also understand it doesn’t help the company. One dead worker will cost the company more than all the product a person could steal. Even with insurance the cost of training even a cashier is nearly $1000. It goes up from there.

        It is still frustrating and my employees often take a lot of training to convince them not to care if someone is stealing.

        And customers also get frustrated when they tell me someone is stealing and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate " and go back to work.

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          and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate "

          You might want to also let them know that “we’re insured for this” and that “nobody is going to lose their job over this, so let’s not lose our heads, either.”

          Also, it’ll go a long way to acknowledge how unfair it is that an employee doing the same thing is completely different.

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        I’ve never worked at McDonald’s but I know for a fact that pizza hut had a policy of not pursuing thieves, we were explicitly told not to do it.

        At one point somebody did walk out without paying and the manager yelled at everyone, because literally none of us noticed. But he couldn’t really do anything to us about it because corporate policy was that we weren’t supposed to do anything, even though obviously he wanted us to have done something.

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          Off topic but I was a manager of a pizza hut for a while. Drove my district manager nuts with technicalities.

          “How many pepperonis go on a large one topping?”

          “I look at the chart”

          “As a store manager you should have it memorized!”

          “As a store manager I have the training manual memorized. It says to look at the chart each and every time you make a pie. It specifically discourages memorizing the portion control. look at the chart every time.”

          The answer he wanted was 56 back then btw. 56 pepperoni on a large one topping. I still remember that. The correct answer was “look at the chart” so that was the only answer I gave him.

          Another funny story, it was my first food service job. He yelled at me for using the sanitizing cloth from the pizza area on the wing area. Cross contamination, I know that now.

          I told him I didn’t know about cross contamination and that it was my first job in food service.

          He yelled “I trained you myself”

          I replied “yeah … I wasn’t going to mention that but you did train me yourself… Yet here I am not knowing anything about the concept of cross contamination… Maybe more time should be devoted to that in the future”

          He did not like me lol

          Edit: I had been a retail manager for a few years and got hired on as a store manager for pizza hut. I was vocal that I had zero experience with food. I don’t even cook for myself. I microwave or order food. I know it sounds silly now that I didn’t know anything about cross contamination. I didn’t know, he hired me, he didn’t explain it during training. Call me stupid for not knowing, that’s fine. Hes responsible for making sure I knew, he was my trainer. That’s his fault. I’m still a manger (retail again) and it is very much my job to train my crew properly and never assume something is “common sense”. If it’s important you go over it in training… But I guess I never trained any of my cashiers to not throw poop at customers I just assume that’s common sense… So I guess there’s that flaw in my theory lol

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            Oh I wouldn’t worry about it I grew up extremely privileged and when my parents insisted I actually got a job I really didn’t understand the concept of being paid. I didn’t quite understand why anybody cared about that because the money was so insignificant, why would anybody care about it?

            I was a really stupid kid. At one point I worked at a petrol station (gas station) for free because I didn’t really understand what jobs were for.

            I was a really really stupid kid.

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              I totally get that. After pizza hut I worked for 4 months at a dominos franchise with my friend Kayla. The franchise owner would bring his son around sometimes. He was probably around 17-18. To be clear they were rich. Franchise owner of a dominos doesn’t sound like much but he owned like 10 including the one we worked at on international drive in Orlando Florida. It’s like the Vegas strip of Florida.

              Anyway his son loved hanging out with Kayla and I because we didn’t give one single shit that he was the owners son. He thought it was wild that i would be a total smartass to his dad…Also Kayla was pretty hot. I’m asexual so we were only just friends but the boy clearly had a crush

              Anyway some conversations I remember that shocked his son

              His dad: I need the key to the cash drawer Me: it’s my drawer, only mine. I can ring the customer up. Dad: I’m not going to steal from my own business- Me: you’re divorced right? so you understand that mistakes happen even with the best intentions? No. You can’t have my key

              Manager meeting at ale house.

              Other managers order

              Me: I’ll have a double scotch in water and (burger order)

              Owners son: can we drink at this meeting?

              Me: I can because I’m over 21 lol

              Owner: no one can drink. It’s an employee meeting. Waiter cancel the scotch.

              Me: I’m sorry Is this a paid meeting?

              Owner: no it’s team building

              Me: but you’re paying for all of our orders at least?

              Owner: no, you aren’t required to order food if you don’t want to. It’s just an option that you can choose.

              Me: cool. Since it’s my time and my money I choose to order a double scotch with water.

              Kayla: I’ll take a margarita with my order.

              Sorry I don’t have any real point I’m making. Just reminiscing. And yes scotch in water is a real drink. It’s not a common drink but it’s been around as long as scotch has. It brings out the more subtle flavors of the scotch.

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    Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.

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      Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”

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      Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.

      Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.

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    Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.

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        this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it

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          I don’t feel like you need to apologize for excuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️

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        both the arrest and conviction of the suspect

        Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.

        might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.

        OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.

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          The tip didn’t contribute to conviction, only the arrest. The words “both” and “and” rather than “consequent” are explicit.

          The rat won’t be paid.

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      I don’t have a citation. But I do believe that you’d normally have to wait for a conviction before getting the reward. Otherwise it could be the wrong guy.

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        I was thinking the same thing. So why is everyone on Lemmy saying “The snitch didn’t even get the money, so they did it for nothing!”

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          Because they didn’t read any of the sources and just heard about the NYPD requirement that they call the tip line, which they didn’t do, so unless there’s some major backlash, they definitely won’t be getting $10,000 of the reward.

          The other $50,000 from the FBI we’re all kinda assuming will have some other reason to not be paid out, but if we’re being honest, if the 1% want us to continue turning on each other in the future, they’re gonna have to let these high profile snitching cases go through.

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      There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture

      Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.

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    Did they seriously not give the snitch the bounty? Can anyone provide official news story on this?

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      Conviction is required, and the informant needs formal recognition by the FBI as a recognized informant first. Karen just called 911, forfeiting the reward.

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        Lol of course there’s stupid hoops like that.

        So anybody who is out and about and sees a fugitive with a publicized reward should know…don’t call 911. Call John Walsh, or pound sand.

        Probably gotta call a specific extension that’s only staffed from 10am to 2:30pm with a 2 hour lunch from 11:15 to 1:15 on the first and third weeks of the month and 12:15 to 2:15 on the other weeks.

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      That’s hillarious. If this were a movie I’d call it bad writing. Heck almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.

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        almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.

        Because it would make for a more interesting story, even though that’s now how it works (fortunately).

        Snitching on your neighbor because he kinda looks like the guy should not be rewarded. Unless he’s convicted, he’s innocent. Only if proven guilty you can say the snitch helped and give them their reward. If the person is innocent then the snitch did nothing more than just waste everyone’s time.

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    Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.

    Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you

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      Too many people forget this part. Luigi Mangione is, until proven otherwise, innocent. The police, the same people who have spent decades killing them people (especially minorities) and planting evidence, largely with impunity, are alleging that he is the one who did it. Luigi is likely a victim of the health insurance industry but, until it is proven otherwise, he and the shooter are two separate individuals.

      People with a lot of wealth and power want to put a bow on this to prevent more frustration from being directed at them.

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    We all know that snitches get stitches, always. What you may not know (and Snitching Joe just found out) is that the stitches are sometimes metaphorical.

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    Police: Here’s 10, thousand dollars! Thanks for the tip!

    The fed: oh I see you made some extra money, Here’s your entire one thousand dollars after tax!

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    I hope someone put the dude face on the internet so everyone knows where to spit when they pass by him

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          the grandson of a wealthy real estate developer, valedictorian of an elite Baltimore prep school, and STEM graduate from a top university goes insane from back pain and assassinates a powerful CEO a small ways from a Hilton; all the while pretending he is doing it for everyday Americans… Luigi is not hero, he’s a poser. Him getting arrested is the perfect end to this story: the rich eating the rich and all going to hell together. Whoever reported him to the police is the real hero.

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    The sad thing is the rat will get their money if Mangione is convicted (and he most probably will even if he’s just a scapegoat). Even if the responsible office will block the reward, some CEO will jump in and hand him way more than the 60k. Maybe they’ll fabricate it into a heatwarming christmas story with some sad background stories of the rat and how they’re now able to pay off the mortgage of their parents home or something.