Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

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      “innocent until proven guilty” is a Government thing. […] A corporation is treated like a group of people, they’re not a Government.

      You’re right and I’m not denying this. I’m just arguing that, for certain very large monopolistic corporations, maybe it should apply as well.

      I’m surprised your point on freedom of speech in other countries is hypothetical as you expressed the US version is so flawed as to be a “grave danger”

      My point was simply “I speak for America as I’m not sure about other countries”, but, I went googling around and it seems other countries (I looked mostly at Europe) are not much better, so I have to conclude freedom of speech is in grave danger pretty much everywhere in the world.

      The US (or European) version isn’t flawed, it’s behind the times, as internet, mobile phones and social media didn’t exist when it was written.

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        Let’s say you have a cafe with an open mic night. One day, a guy comes up to the stage and starts yelling Nazi rhetoric and racist slogans. You can be a free speech absolutist like yourself and let the guy stay on stage, or you can keep your customers and kick the fucker out. The only difference between this and Apple is scale.

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          The only difference between this and Apple is scale.

          Bingo, that makes all the difference, and that there are a lot more than two open mic cafes to choose from.

          Cafés can rightfully kick those guys out, but when you’re as big and power as Apple, the law should (but doesn’t as of yet) curtail that power a bit, as it lends itself for immense abuse.

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            Okay. What if it’s the only cafe with an open mic night in town? It’s not a big city. Should they allow the Nazi? Otherwise, it lends itself for abuse, right?

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        I’m just arguing that, for certain very large monopolistic corporations, maybe it should apply as well.

        Instead of treating huge corporations that actively suppress competition like they’re a de facto form of government, we should instead… prevent them from getting to the point where their size and market share grants them power over the lives of citizens comparable to that of the government.