Summary
Berlin lawmaker Antje Kapek of the Green Party proposed introducing women-only carriages on the city’s underground trains to enhance safety, inspired by a similar approach in Tokyo.
Kapek cited rising nighttime attacks on women and crowded evening conditions as reasons for the measure, which is still a proposal without legislative backing.
Her suggestion follows a recent rape case on the Berlin metro. The city’s BVG transport authority expressed doubts, arguing current safety measures, including 250 security staff and emergency contact points, are sufficient.
Maybe teach your men to respect women’s boundaries? Always treating the symptoms and not the root cause. Works the other way too.
That works great for regular guys. Not so great for the evil psychopaths who just don’t care what we try to teach them and will always be looking for people to victimize.
What keeps the evil psychopath from just entering the womens carriage?
Unless there is a conductor at every station to enforce it, this is just the same nonsense with claiming that excluding transgender people from bathrooms to somehow repel assailants.
Norms. Same thing for women’s bathrooms. Unless you are alone in there, the psychopath is going to face multiple women yelling at him to leave.
As a society of laws we like to think we can solve everything by just writing a good law. Sometimes it’s much better to create situations where strong norms can solve the problem without the need for law enforcement. Norms are like laws where everyone is an enforcer.
Those will always be a small part. If it’s culturally clear what is harrassment and shouldn’t be tolerated, it’s far more likely that 1) there are actual consequences to sexual harrassment because victims feel comfortable speaking up and 2) that bystanders will try to intervene. Both of which make it less likely for anyone to even try.
When speaking up is met with “you dressed wrong”, “he was just trying to get to know you”, that is the core problem. Adding “you were on the wrong train car” isn’t necessarily helpful.
Japans women-only cars are sadly necessary, but the focus should be on making them unnecessary, not adding gender segregation in more places.
The issue with psychopaths is that although they may be rare, they can have an outsized impact. It only takes one of them to victimize hundreds of people and create an atmosphere of terror.
I do, but I also refuse to instill self hatred in my little boy and treat him like he’s some monster that’s dangerous and needs to be educated into being human. I have a daughter and a son and I see both the need to keep women safe, while at the same time not demonizing men and making boys feel like they’re hated or like they need to walk on eggshells through life
Yeah if you instill respect of others, you dont need to teach them to walk on eggshells.
Ugh. You people have nothing to say, just barfing platitudes. No actual substance
He is, I don’t know what you are on about. He has to actively fight the active flood of news, social media, and propaganda that says men are terrible and that if you don’t bow at the alter of Kamala Harris then you are a racist, misogynistic, homophobe. I guess all those married white women, black and Hispanic men are now all racist, misogynistic, and homophobic.
Or…. Working class people are tired of having their intelligence insulted and life put at risk so that upper class trust fund babies can complain about pronouns, because that’s whose vote the democrats tried to win over. I watched the debate, followed Kamala on social media and all I know about her positions are “Trump is stupid”, “Tariffs are bad”, “pronouns are important”. And people are suffering and struggling to buy eggs. maybe don’t throw your voter base under the bus to highlight the importance of drag queen story hour and Kamala would have won. Or…… maybe the dems could fucking learn to hold an actual primary and democratically elected their party nominee. Kamala is unlikeable and even more unrelatable. A Bay Area upper class woman with a “holier than thou” attitude would have lost to the pile of dog shit in my back yard. A blue collar worker in North Carolina doesn’t want to be told that he is an idiot because he misgendered Demi Lovato and couldn’t possibly understand the struggle they/them have been through as they try to shut down another small business for no reason in their multi-million dollar home in California.
This is a massive rant with no points related to the actual conversation at hand, sort of just 5 or 6 point thrown out without extrapolation.
I think I get the general gist of what you’re pointing to, but I just don’t see it. People said ‘if you support Trump (who actively said racist, misogynistic, and deplorable things) then you support those people/ideologies’ and that’s not even an insult, it’s a fact.
There’s no flood of media im seeing saying ‘all boys are bad and should feel bad’. I AM seeing a flood of “men aren’t being held accountable for their actions, and that’s influencing how young boys perceive the outcomes”
But I hear the sentiment you’re voicing in other spaces, but no one has been able to point me anywhere. Please, help me understand what it is you’re seeing that makes you feel that way.
#AllMen but #NotAllWomen but #Equality, right?
Shhhh…… don’t say the thing out loud
This is brilliant! We should also teach people to not steal or murder too! OMG I think you’ve cracked it!
Do you have a book or newsletter I could subscribe to?
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Right. So it’s very unfortunate that they made a proposal that would affect everyone, kinda like a ‘your choice, my consequences’ thing. Seems more like an enforcement and education thing.
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Crazy that even saying a fact like this is downvoted cause people are so damn sensitive that you can’t speak ugly truths. I had a leftists call me racist and defend Saudi Arabia cause I said that place is a shit hole of slavery and evil who doesn’t even allow women to be free. It is a shit hole though, and I refuse to be politically correct towards slavers and misogynists
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Alternately, your comments keep getting removed for overt racism, not a defense of rape culture.
Way to put your head in the sand mods…what was that whole, to be intolerant of the intolerant?..tell me why you’re defending an intolerant culture…