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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a regular enjoyer of vaping (used to be a pack a day smoker), this is great news. Fuck disposable vapes because theirs nothing "disposable" about them. Plastic, electronics, metals, and lithium batteries that people just fucking throw out their car windows like cigarette butts. That shit is gonna last for thousands of years. And y'all have seen those videos of people's phones and vapes exploding in their pockets when there's a puncture in the battery, right? Yeah let's just throw that shit into landfills and out of car windows and find out what happens.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Makes me wonder how many electric car batteries worth of lithium and rare earth metals is just lying in gutters around the world.

[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For the UK alone:

In 2022, they found more than 40 tonnes of lithium from single-use vapes was discarded, which is the same amount used to power 5,000 electric vehicles.

Source

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

oh, there's fields and fields of entire cars just sitting in all inhabited remote places. it's becoming a real problem in Alaska. there's towns there literally getting buried in dead cars because it's too expensive to take them anywhere else.

generally if you think "i wonder if this type of thing is getting disposed of properly or if it's a huge ecological problem" the answer is always the latter. the humans in charge don't care about the environment. that's not profitable.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also the cells are typically in pretty good condition, as the vape tends to run out of the flavoured/nicotine liquid stuff before the battery gets down to a state of charge that is bad for long term storage.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's not true at all? It's literally always the battery that runs out first. Else you would burn the coils in them.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're rechargeable lithium batteries, they should last years. Not a week.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

True, if you could recharge them, but they don't include ports to do so.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

Which is why it's a waste of good lithium cells, as the guy you replied to was saying

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

So much that people have started making DIY stuff out of them.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t mind this over in the states. I see these pieces of crap strewn out all over the place outside. I see refillable ones like juuls pretty often too but not as often as the little tykes lookin disposable ones.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

There used to be a massive market of regular battery/tank style vapes and juices. Around 2020 they started cracking down on flavored vaping stuff and it killed almost the entire market of vapes at the time, and left a void that is only filled now by countless disposables companies with strong as hell 5% juice. There’s simply no good options anymore if you don’t want a high concentrate disposable

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

This is fantastic news.

[–] cjk@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish they would ban it in Germany, too.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago

EU needs to step in

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

this is a direct attack on Big Clive and I won't stand for it

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

I'll miss all the free rechargeable lithium cells too, but there's plenty of garbage vapes to keep us busy for ages as it is.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking of Big Clive and his lithium battery harvesting videos

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They will be imported as crazy.

Denmark already banned it, but they are everywhere. Literally everywhere. It might be the biggest "black market" right now for anything really.

They need refillable ones. Chargeable. It needs to be a product you buy, and they have it for a loooong time, only to buy more fluid.

You can't stop it by banning it, and it's better than smoking, so please just give us the eco friendly alternative.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

what do you mean? there's a million refillable options out there. have been for years. the popularity of disposables is mostly about convenience, habit (it's similar to buying cigarettes), and laziness. it's a great example of how much people just don't give a shit. it's actually waaaay cheaper in the long run to use a refillable one. gives a better experience with more flavor options too. but it's maybe 5% less convenient to use. therefore only about 5% of users go for that.

i fucking hate human nature.

i have like 5 friends in trying to convince away from the disposables right now. I'm 3 years in, and may have one that would be willing to try it i bought it for him. it's so fucking hard to change anyone's buying habits. i don't get why. these are all people that SAY they care about the environment. then i show them an easy to fix way that they are FUCKING INCREDIBLY AWFUL to the environment and they just shrug...

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[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haven't rechargeable ones been available way longer than disposable ones?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. But some areas banned those first, and the flavoring you put in them. Unsure about UK considering they're the ones publishing studies that aren't just big tobacco/pharma lobby lies like the Diacetyl bullshit, I'd think they're largely vape friendly (but who ever let those pesky scientists get in the way of a good ban, huh?)

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah the UK government is largely pro vaping as a way to stop smoking, but thankfully very anti disposables and marketing to children. I don't have much good to say about our government, but I'm with them on this.

[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

Denmark is a bit different though. They've cracked down on all flavours except menthol and tobacco, and they've taxed it similar to cigarettes. The UK is only banning disposable vapes.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should build some kind of a moat around the UK. If we manage that, while not full proof, I have no doubt that banning it in the UK will be easier to do than somewhere without a moat.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but y'all already have a fuck-you huge moat called like The English Channel/Celtic Sea/Atlantic Ocean/North Sea or something. What you need is pungee pits outside of tobacco shoppes.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, is that what that thing was? I wondered why i kept getting wet.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well that may be the endless rain if you're in London of course.

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[–] Emerica@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that not already a thing over there? Refillable tanks with replaceable coils and batteries have been a thing for over a decade in the states. They were the original vaping devices as far as I know. Then companies started making this “disposable” crap.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You've got the eco friendly alternative.

What do you think people were vaping with before the disposable vapes?

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[–] MeatStiq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have my friends saving their empty vapes. I plan on making a backup battery out of them.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Genuinely interested, how would you go about doing that?

[–] MeatStiq@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh I found someone doing it on YouTube.

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[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love the convenience, but nobody gives a fuck about recycling or nature in the US. I called a few smoke shops on how I could recycle these disposable vapes with rechargeable batteries and they literally said to throw it in the trash.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You can simply search for a local hazard material or battery cleanup/pickup event. Most dumps will take them. But throwing them in your regular trash causes risk of fire to your house, garbage truck, and the dump. I hold onto all my old disposables to take to the dump.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Oh bummer. I thought we were running low on e-waste in the world.

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