The “bare minimum for a non-disposable, consumer friendly, half environmentally responsible phone” starter pack.
Also the custom ROM ability should not be merely a bonus. IMO it needs to be legally mandatory even above standardised charging connectors. It costs effectively nothing to implement because the base OS and general architecture supports it by default, the manufacturer simply needs to not disable it, and it is by far the most important thing for keeping a device from becoming unusable and possibly even a cybersecurity risk with age. Also just in principle, I paid for the hardware I should be able to put my own software on it.
yup imagine not being able to run anything you want on your own device. it should be mandatory
Oh look, phones from circa 2017!
Dude literally described a perfect phone
Pretty much.
TIL: I am a cultist.
Same. Apparently demanding the bare minimum of user modifications, and tried and true technology, is being a cultist?
I’d apply that label to the iEcosystem users than us android bois.
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Does apple phone not have a notification LED? I like it. I can tell whos messaging me from it. Blue is txt message (probably mum) purple is whatsapp, probably dank memes in the group chat, green is probaly my autistic cousin on instagram sending me cat pictures, white is signal, probably my dealer.
I like the distinction, nice
If anyone can find me one of these without it breaking the bank please hmu
Some of my fav features:
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5AH Battery + 25W QC (100% in 2hrs) + WC, battery isn’t removable but phone is easy to repair
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Expandable Storage
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Headphone Jack with a HiRes 32Bit DAC
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Loud stereo speakers that don’t suck
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1080P/60Hz/HDR10+ P-OLED
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Wacom Stylus compatible
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Desktop Mode
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Dual Screen Case - LG mirrored the display into a case that the phone can easily drop in.
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USB C 3.1 OTG
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Still receiving quarterly security updates 3.5 years after launch to include A13 even after LG shutdown their mobile division in 2021
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5G, Wifi 6, BT 5.1
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FM Radio
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Rootable with community tool on XDA
The only things I wish I could change are:
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Cameras for better resolution for macro/landscape shots. Anything further than 10 feet from the camera loses detail extremely quickly. Camera can record 4k60FPS but the second you crop or zoom in on anything, all the details are blury. It’s baffling to me.
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Higher refresh rate display even if it was only 90hz.
The only phone that can beat this in features is the Sony Xperia line at ~ 5x the price. Broke my first one and immediately grabbed a second one off swappa.
5kAh battery
Do you mean 5 Ah or 5000 mAh? A 5kAh 3.7V battery would get you across most of the US on an ebike or run an electric car for 80 km. Or a phone for much of its lifetime.
Yeah I did haha.
I wish that LG could have gotten their shit together. The V series was fantastic. Even with my shitty car speakers, you could hear the difference between the V20 DAC and that of a regular phone.
Plus the secondary screen was fantastic and stupid useful.
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Galaxy S5 + it also has an IR blaster and heart rate reader.
oh man that was one of the best phones hardware-wise. unfortunately that was also the era when samsung = bloatware
You don’t need the bloatware… Custom ROMs with up to Android 12 are available, much newer than most phones of the time.
Holy shit thank you for making me remember how I’d fuck with my roommates with the IR blaster on my HTC One. Good times
I would prank professors in class by turning on the projector lol
Nexus One
:(
RIP power user geared phones
Everything Android is now tooled for the hyper casual iPhone leaning demographic since they are the majority.
I want my notification light back so badly!
I agree! And it flashed different colors for different notifications! Things were awesome!
Didn’t even realize the led was something that had been removed. Mine has it on the upper edge, which is fine, although I’d prefer it on the front face so it can be ‘muted’ by flipping the phone over
The Xperia Z2 had a notification light bar, I miss that one especially.
I saw a comment on lemmy some time ago about a foss app that mostly brings it back, but I can’t find it anymore.
It’s not the one I saw, but a quick google search led to this: https://github.com/Chainfire/HoleyLight
Wait, aren’t most phones OLED? Wouldn’t it be trivial to light up a few pixels in the corner of the screen when it’s off? Do phones not do this (I’m still running my S7 into the ground so I have a dedicated LED)?
I have my always on display which gives me icons of the notifications in a predictable place on screen all the time.
My battery still lasts a full day so power concerns not an issue
It’s not trivial. An LED only needs power to light up, an OLED Pixel always needs the GPU to be powered on and it would be a significant power loss to implement a pixel sadly
The full Always On Display (which shows the clock + some notifications) uses less than 1% battery per hour on my ancient S7, are new phones not any better than that?
I mean there’s a ton of phones that have always on displays (AOD)
yeah samsung has a feature for this in good look
I just use the camera notification circle. It works just fine. I can set it to use a notification dot but the circle is cooler
Lol. My Samsung galaxy S3 did all this!
I miss being able to hold my phone comfortably in one hand.
This stupid propping it up with you pink sucks ass and isn’t natural.
I get that they’re basically super computers in your hand, but fuck man
That’s literally my first requirement for a phone, that it be small and actually fit inside my hand without any straining. It gets harder everytime I need a replacement - like, dudes, if I wanted aa small tablet, I’d buy a small tablet. I want a phone.
Yeah, same here. Except it didn’t get “harder” but simply impossible. There is not a single compact android phone on the market. You could get the iPhone se or the iPhone 13 Mini, but the compact iPhones are discontinued as well, so you’d switch ecosystems for a single generation of devices just to then be stranded again.
Personally I don’t have tiny baby hands, so I dont need to worry about that… but it would definitely be nice if there were more options to choose from.
Yeah, but I’ve heard about your baby dick, so I’m fine with smaller hands…
EDIT: Sorry, it was intended as just a silly joke-response, no one’s actually sensitive here!
Yowch, someone’s a little sensitive… Trump, is that you?
There is no evidence to support that holding moden phones have changed bond structure in fingers.
That was the note 3 for me except for the compact size. I had a 10,000 mah upgraded battery in it. Thing was a brick but could last a 2-3 days on a full charge, cant get even one fully day on my oneplus 8t :/
My regular OnePlus 8 goes for over a day. Are you on OOS or a custom ROM? I use LineageOS with a basic ACC setup and get good battery life.
I am on pixel experience, it is stable and has the features I like. Battery is good enough, but can’t compete with my note 3 lol
God I miss my note 3
except for the compact size.
Ironically, a 5.7" screen is smaller than anything available on the market now. The note 3 would actually tick that box today. It’s insane.
My phone checks all these boxes, but it does not run android
Come on, don’t leave us hanging
My guess is KaiOS
I bought the wrong android it seems
A recent flagship Samsung it was then.
1-0 for you, lol
I miss the notification LED
I don’t understand why that one has gone away. Like, the 3mm audio jack made waterproofing difficult and was big. But that doesn’t apply to the notification LED, does it?
I really miss that feature because now I have no indicator of a notification, short of the major battery drain of setting the screen to always be on. I remember even customizing the colour so that I could tell when I had important notifications. Now I often have to double tap my phone just to check if I have any notifications. So dumb.
Even the water resistance thing is a lie
Wait wait new phones don’t have those anymore?
No they can only fold in half. We still need to do some research to implement notification LED technology.
I haven’t had a phone with one since the Galaxy S7, but always on displays have replaced them for notifications at a glance.
The s9 had it, rip in piss notification led.
I had a different reaction to the notification led. I don’t like my electronics glowing or blinking in the dark. I still liked my old android tablet, but it had to sleep face down because I could not turn the LED off.
Yeh, I thought I wanted a notification led again but once you have it you realise it’s pointless. So many things can notify you about stuff you don’t care about.
Nice to have and disable if you don’t like it though.
I can’t tell if you mean you slept face down or you slept with the tablet face down haha
