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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 140 points 1 month ago

The American reaction in the second frame should've been: cool, here's more weapons.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 121 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I was out of the loop

For real though, Biden + his foreign policy and military advisors are gonna win a mental gymnastics competition with this shit

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden be like: "Come here, anything for you haBiBi"

Biden is a simp to Netanyahu.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 month ago

Drag hears that Biden even does Netanyahu's laundry

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 109 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Making fun of the IDF on Reddit? That's a paddlin'.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

How is this making fun of the IDF? Seems to me the topic is the Biden administration's arbitrary restrictions on Ukraine.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

to be clear, ukraine went ahead and did this anyway. And then the US lifted restrictions on this kind of stuff (idk if it was completely, but they did do it)

It's not really arbitrary, it's just geopolitics being geopolitics, ukraine and the rest of europe showed that russia would bluff, and we're supporting them more now.

I guess it should make sense coming from a partially republican legislature that doesn't even believe in the ukraine war to begin with.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

It's about atacms strikes deep (+100km) inside russia, what according to you did they do "anyways"?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They attacked with long range drones rather than American weapons

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I know, and that has always "been allowed".

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The trick to a good proxy war is that everyone involved has to participate via proxy. Russia broke the rules and now we all have to walk on eggshells.

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[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait....

Are we on Reddit?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, according to the poster, this post was removed from r/NCD (on Reddit).

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[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Look can't I just be happy a Russian airbase was attacked?

Hahaha

FUCK YOU RUSSIA

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Lmao fuck these wars are complicated but there is one simple fact we can agree on

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I like the cut of your jib

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow very juicy. In Syria, but still.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"There are no russians in Syria!"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Well, not any more

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[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ah yes Ukraine and Israel are both American proxy wars and not totally different conflicts with different politics run by independent countries

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We sure are supporting Israel a lot for it to not be a proxy war though...

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's not a proxy war they're just using American money and weapons and some American citizen soldiers

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

And America is using that to exert their influence on that region in the world. Sure sounds like a proxy. Just because Israel has more power in American politics compared to Ukraine doesn't mean they aren't a proxy.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean, the difference being that the US has a say in how one in conducted, and a very justified interest in it's outcome, while the other is in the Middle East.

Why they are running a proxy war that's out of control and doesn't help anything is a good question, and one that can only have stupid answers.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean…. They’re two totally different conflicts with different politics run by independent countries…. That are also proxy wars being funded by the US and China.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder how Russia feels as the proxy in the fight rather than the supplier of a proxy in the fight

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They did what?

Also, the auto fill results when you type in "Israel bombs" are interesting.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's just the comedian Isreal, he's not very good.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I got "orphanage" as my second result.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I got school as first recommendation :')

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 41 points 1 month ago

PMCs: We firebombed an orphanage. Any government every: Boys will be boys

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone! Dont you see! Isreal is trying to divert Russian troops from Ukraine. This is a win!!!

/s

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

If this pulls Russia out of Ukraine to attack israel that would make me so happy

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 month ago
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hope that's just a joke, it's not like Israel needs more enemies

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Russia supports Iran while the US supports the paragons of Israel and Saudi Arabia. Kind of like the US was leaning Pakistan while Russia leans India. Now China finds more value with Pakistan than we do though (which will eventually make us do something stupid to "support our interests").

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Yeah, I still don't understand the Pakistan thing. Pakistan:

  • harbored Osama bin Laden
  • has pretty uninteresting economic output
  • has serious beef with their much larger neighbor India, and are somewhat friendly with Iran and China

Whereas India:

  • has a ton of people
  • already has pretty extensive economic ties to the US, which could be strengthened, and is a ripe alternative to China for production
  • has tensions w/ China, so we have mutual enemies
  • is highly unlikely to harbor any of our enemies

Yet we keep them at arm's length.

I could say the same for Israel and Saudi Arabia. Why are we so intent on picking the worst possible countries in a given region? The only explanation is that we want war...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sunk-cost fallacy stemming from Cold War-era choices.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think they've gone beyond somewhat friendly with China. They've got PLA troops in Pakistan now doing anti terrorism work. The chances of the Chinese establishing a naval base in Pakistan is far from remote at this point, though I think it would be a back channel red line from the Americans regarding further military funding.

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[–] match@pawb.social 17 points 1 month ago

netanyahu needs Israel to have more enemies so that he can maintain a stranglehold on power indefinitely. basic fascism

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is Israel bombing Russian airbases now?

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