Hey at least he could never win again, silver lining lol. Then all we have to do is kill him when he tries to go dictator which honestly shouldn’t be that hard, the nearest secret service agent may even do it…extrajudiciously.
(I have a pet theory that one of the functions of the secret service is to quickly turn from bodyguards to assassins if a dictatorial president does attempt a real take over. I mean, why not? if it isn’t it should be.)
A world where Trump gets elected and then assassinated is a world where JD Vance is president of an America that elected Trump and then saw him assassinated. That’s how you get Gilead by 2025. That is NOT something to fantasize about. That’s a hell scenario. And it’s why people who think that there’s any solutions to our problem that come out of a gun are – and I mean this with all due respect – very, very dumb.
And to put a fine point on this: it’s not that this wouldn’t be a bad idea if not for JD Vance. It’s illustrative of how political violence in real life almost universally makes whatever problem might’ve motivated the violence suddenly far worse rather than better.
I think if a VP helps aid and abbett a president’s hostile takeover they go to prison, but I could be wrong I suppose.
In any case: well, if he gets elected and then does go dictator, because that’s the hypothetical in which I said he should be shot, what would you rather do? “Just not elect him” isn’t an option because again, in the hypothetical he’s already dictator. If you have a better idea I’m all ears, but tbh it seems like the best way to deal with dictators to me, and tbf at least he’s getting off easier then mussolini or ghadaffi(sp?), most dictators are dragged through the street and sodomized with brooms and shit.
Furthermore: Ok fine, so you shoot a dictator and that legally means his 2nd in command remains in power instead of prison (for some unlikely reason). Ok so shoot both. What’s the goddamn problem here? If they literally go dictator, why the hell not? It’s literally already punishable by death to take over the whole country by force I think.
The first thing you need to know is that if Trump gets elected, there is no discernible point between whether he “goes dictator” or not. People just use power and whether they’re a dictator is a subjective exercise for historians.
Second: if Trump gets elected, everyone should actually be doing the same things they do if Harris gets elected, which are also the same things we should all have been doing under Biden, Trump, Obama, etc: which is building a base of local power to stand up for the most threatened among us and push back against authoritarian state power.
In practice, this means getting to know your neighbors. Knowing who serves as your mayor and city council and county council, and police chief, and local prosecutor. Then you need to organize with your local community to build political power to support democracy and oppose authoritarian power. And if you and the folks in the next town do this, you form a bloc of political will to do the same thing at the state level, and eventually the federal level.
This work still needs done if Harris wins. She is a better person than Trump, but the larger system both would command is a loaded gun. We cannot simply keep trying to keep the gun in the hands of the lesser of two evils, we need to remove the bullets. That means things like public financing of elections and ranked choice voting. It’s not as dramatic as shooting politicians you don’t like, but unfortunately, in the real world this is how dismantling fascism actually works.
Well tbf I don’t disagree with that, but good luck with it (and especially in time for the next presidency to end, which is about 4y).
Tbh it seems more likely to me that either one would say “know what? I’m king/queen now” and get domed by someone who works “for” them who says “nope” than all the country comes together and builds support networks, but ya can’t place all your eggs in one basket.
Keyword tried. Quite unsuccessfully, not even near the level where a secret service agent would be doing that if they are tasked with it (but I bet they were thinking about it being possible if they are.)
I mean really, if that is his best coup let him try again lol. Real quality coup you got there, less dead cops than Chris Dorner got by himself.
Hey at least he could never win again, silver lining lol. Then all we have to do is kill him when he tries to go dictator which honestly shouldn’t be that hard, the nearest secret service agent may even do it…extrajudiciously.
(I have a pet theory that one of the functions of the secret service is to quickly turn from bodyguards to assassins if a dictatorial president does attempt a real take over. I mean, why not? if it isn’t it should be.)
A world where Trump gets elected and then assassinated is a world where JD Vance is president of an America that elected Trump and then saw him assassinated. That’s how you get Gilead by 2025. That is NOT something to fantasize about. That’s a hell scenario. And it’s why people who think that there’s any solutions to our problem that come out of a gun are – and I mean this with all due respect – very, very dumb.
And to put a fine point on this: it’s not that this wouldn’t be a bad idea if not for JD Vance. It’s illustrative of how political violence in real life almost universally makes whatever problem might’ve motivated the violence suddenly far worse rather than better.
I think if a VP helps aid and abbett a president’s hostile takeover they go to prison, but I could be wrong I suppose.
In any case: well, if he gets elected and then does go dictator, because that’s the hypothetical in which I said he should be shot, what would you rather do? “Just not elect him” isn’t an option because again, in the hypothetical he’s already dictator. If you have a better idea I’m all ears, but tbh it seems like the best way to deal with dictators to me, and tbf at least he’s getting off easier then mussolini or ghadaffi(sp?), most dictators are dragged through the street and sodomized with brooms and shit.
Furthermore: Ok fine, so you shoot a dictator and that legally means his 2nd in command remains in power instead of prison (for some unlikely reason). Ok so shoot both. What’s the goddamn problem here? If they literally go dictator, why the hell not? It’s literally already punishable by death to take over the whole country by force I think.
The first thing you need to know is that if Trump gets elected, there is no discernible point between whether he “goes dictator” or not. People just use power and whether they’re a dictator is a subjective exercise for historians.
Second: if Trump gets elected, everyone should actually be doing the same things they do if Harris gets elected, which are also the same things we should all have been doing under Biden, Trump, Obama, etc: which is building a base of local power to stand up for the most threatened among us and push back against authoritarian state power.
In practice, this means getting to know your neighbors. Knowing who serves as your mayor and city council and county council, and police chief, and local prosecutor. Then you need to organize with your local community to build political power to support democracy and oppose authoritarian power. And if you and the folks in the next town do this, you form a bloc of political will to do the same thing at the state level, and eventually the federal level.
This work still needs done if Harris wins. She is a better person than Trump, but the larger system both would command is a loaded gun. We cannot simply keep trying to keep the gun in the hands of the lesser of two evils, we need to remove the bullets. That means things like public financing of elections and ranked choice voting. It’s not as dramatic as shooting politicians you don’t like, but unfortunately, in the real world this is how dismantling fascism actually works.
Well tbf I don’t disagree with that, but good luck with it (and especially in time for the next presidency to end, which is about 4y).
Tbh it seems more likely to me that either one would say “know what? I’m king/queen now” and get domed by someone who works “for” them who says “nope” than all the country comes together and builds support networks, but ya can’t place all your eggs in one basket.
You mean like when he tried to overthrow the 2020 election by rallying his supporters to march on the capitol?
Keyword tried. Quite unsuccessfully, not even near the level where a secret service agent would be doing that if they are tasked with it (but I bet they were thinking about it being possible if they are.)
I mean really, if that is his best coup let him try again lol. Real quality coup you got there, less dead cops than Chris Dorner got by himself.
Nah fuck that. Trying to overthrow a democratically elected president is always wrong, and not taking him to task for it empowers him to try it again.
Sure, by all means take this as an actual endorsement rather than me making fun of him, lol.