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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whenever I see these articles, I feel like it's part of OpenAI's marketing strategy to use the fear-based media to pump up the sense of how revolutionary their tech is. Kinda like how they marketed GPT-4o by openly tying it in to the movie Her, as if ChatGPT is gonna replace relationships. They're clearly very aware of what gets attention and going for that.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Whenever I see these articles, I feel like it’s part of OpenAI’s marketing strategy to use the fear-based media to pump up the sense of how revolutionary their tech is

Yep, I think that's what's going on too.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sooooo…the next update to AI is sociopathy:

Because AIs don’t share common human values like fairness or justice — they’re just focused on the goal they’re given — they might go about achieving their goal in a way humans would find horrifying.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A computer has no sense of right or wrong, only pass or fail.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Working from the definition of sociopathy, I think you could substitute “AI” in a few spots and end up with a nearly equally-accurate definition of AI:

A sociopath is someone with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), a mental health condition that involves a lack of regard for others' feelings and rights. People with ASPD may: Lack empathy and remorse Manipulate others for personal gain Behave impulsively or aggressively Break rules or laws Feel little guilt for harming others Seem charming at first Have difficulty understanding others' feelings

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A computer lacks human emotions, more at 6

[–] Toes@ani.social 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you familiar with the paperclip problem?

The idea that if you task a sufficiently advanced AI with making paperclips it'll inevitably turn the universe into a collection of paperclips when that is its only goal.

[–] damirK@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Toes@ani.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that's 30mins of my life I won't get back. Hilarious clicker game.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And a spelling mistake on an ai research paper (papercloppers instead of paperclippers) spawns an entire mlp fanfiction where a game dev accidentally makes an AGI to run an MMO that ends up turning the world into a singularity. Friendship is Optimal, after all.

[–] wendrul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Give me more paperclips or at least my time back

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Imho no amount of paywall or legislation protects us from a dangerous model. It's software that will eventually become widely available.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The peeps focusing on finding out scheming prompted an llm to generate scheming. Yawn This is the only surprising if you don't know that llms are fancy autocompletes.

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This has nothing to do with the article it’s self, but I absolutly hate GIFs as the thumbnail. I get that they do it for the attention, but if every site starts doing this, my feed will look awful.

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'd disable that if I could. I'd much rather have no thumbnail than an animated one.

That's ugly as hell too.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Computer programs don't deceive. They respond programmatically based on input given.

Any perceived deception by the computer is actually just irrational expectations, etc. by the user.

it will start by telling you it’s “thinking.” After a few seconds, it’ll specify that it’s “defining variables.” Wait a few more seconds, and it says it’s at the stage of “figuring out equations.” You eventually get your answer, and you have some sense of what the AI has been up to.

The opposite is true here. We are being intentionally misdirected by misleading/humanizing language away from what the computer is actually doing. Not even close to understanding what the "AI" has been computing.

However, it’s a pretty hazy sense. The details of what the AI is doing remain under the hood. That’s because the OpenAI researchers decided to hide the details from users... In other words, we’re not sure if Strawberry is actually “figuring out equations” when it says it’s “figuring out equations.” Similarly, it could tell us it’s consulting biology textbooks when it’s in fact consulting comic books. Whether because of a technical mistake or because the AI is attempting to deceive us in order to achieve its long-term goal, the sense that we can see into the AI might be an illusion.

The author conflates the actual deception of the developers with the imaginary deception of the "AI". This type of terrible coverage is completely normal inside the "AI" bubble.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

It’s such a dumb take too. Let’s look at other things that need time to load: video games. Often times the loading screens tell you nothing about what’s actually going on, but hilariously some say things like “weeding the garden” or “sniffing some glue” or other things to that effect.

“It’s lying to us” is such a… naive take. It’s just spitting out preprogrammed text to essentially say “nothing had gone wrong but we are still working on this.”

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

No, I’m not.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 6 points 1 month ago

Just like its salespeople

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good, it's the only reliable sign of intelligent self-awareness there is, to the point that all children progress through it, starting out as bad liars, and getting better at it.

LLMs however might just be stupid, or stocasticaly incorrect.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I was honestly concerned my daughter might be a sociopath. Then I realized she was just 3.