this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2024
190 points (94.8% liked)

News

23259 readers
3386 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 215 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The FTC has been CRUSHING IT under the current leaders by actually enforcing existing rules. I hope Kamala tells those donors to pound sand.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 86 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  1. That's why they're saying it

  2. That's why they're giving her the money

  3. Lol, yeah let's just hope and pray a "moderate" will pick people over corporations...

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is why we need campaign finance reform. Isn't there another country that limits the duration of their campaigns? That would be a good place to start.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most countries can kick out a PM, hold a national popular vote election. And have a replacement PM in office in like 2-3 months.

For a fraction of the cost of what we do.

But having the primary start so early and called after 5-10 states vote gives this huge election where fundraising happens nonstop. Which is insane because most people don't see TV/radio commercials anymore. We learn about candidates from what the media says about candidates more than anything, have for decades.

Even in person campaign stops, who goes to one of those if they aren't already voting for them?

It's costing each party over a billion for presidential campaigns these days, and for the life of me I can't understand how they could spend that much if they tried.

It's literally Brewster's Millions, but if someone's team is raising the most, they act like it's a good thing.

Everything about American elections is inflated because there's so much money that can be made in what's essentially legalized bribery. And 99.9% of Americans are priced out of the system. With the "victory fund" nonsense, an individual can give like 960k this year. Why would they waste time with average Americans who might give $20?

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The country exerts influence directly and indirectly throughout the world, it is obvious that they are going to spend a lot of money, whether it is companies, organizations, countries or others.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

is obvious that they are going to spend a lot of money,

That is about raising money...

I'm talking about how they can spend that much money.

Most of the actual work on voter outreach is done by volunteers. Are they spending it on radio/TV ads no one see? Spam calls and texts asking for donations? Fancy fundraisers to get moreoney?

We spend money to make money, and it just keeps going in a loop and they never really get around to trying to get votes.

It's like infinite unnecessary middle men...

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I remember similar cynicism when Obama appointed ~former telecom lobbyist~ Tom Wheeler as FCC chair... only for him to come out with the strongest net neutrality regs in history. People can surprise you.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

Tom Wheeler really was surprising because he was a huge industry shill before being appointed FCC chair, and then turned around and stopped being shitty.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Just them going after Adobe is enough for Kamala to get my vote. Fuck Adobe.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I’d say she’s been trying, but I don’t know that anything has been achieved yet. Still an improvement over what we had before.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 months ago (30 children)

Between this and her stance on Isreal Harris has excellent tools to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Please, Harris, fucking endorse popular positions... you'll coast into the white house.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You may have forgotten, in this party, winning is less important than pleasing the billionaires.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago

As someone who voted for Hillary... believe me I have no doubts the depths of self-destruction democrats will go to to please donors.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

this ~~party~~ electoral system.

Trump also caved to billionaires immediately despite all of his rhetoric.

Edit: it's kind of whataboutism but I'm just pointing out the real problem.

load more comments (29 replies)
[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These motherfuckers own the world, and that's not even enough.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

They are mentally ill.

If forced institutionalized wards become a thing again (hope not), the 1% better be the first through the doors.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ppl were celebrating Kamala raising $300 million in another post yesterday. We should NEVER applaud money in politics. IT IS A BRIBE. Keeping money out of American politics should be up there with universal health care. Regardless of the fact Republicans have more mega donors Democrats are still indebted to their mega donors. Applauding for having less mega donors is like applauding a criminal for only having one victim.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Isn't the vast majority donations from regular folks contrary to (most) Republicans? I know Trump gets money left and right but I don't think it's technically going to the party/his campaign...

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't they have enough money yet?!

Are they not, ever, going to be satisfied? Does a tiny little modicum of restraint upset them that much?

(don't answer that!)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Cost over a billion to beat trump last time and this time is going break the record again.

I don't understand how they're spending this much money, like I understand the answer is corruption, but I'm just amazed they have the balls to claim that much is legitimately spent on campaigning.

Most of it is probably the salaries of the people in charge of collecting donations. They're just after a commission, but Jamie Harrison got the DNC chair because he ran against a nationally hated Republican in a seat he had no chance of winning

Biden didn't care he lost the election, just that he broke records for donations. Everyone ignored the donations weren't so much for Harrison, they were against his opponent.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

It's a Shame the Potentially First Female President and ONLY Person who can save the world from Fascism is about to Publicly Endorse the FIRING of the ONLY people in Government holding Billionaires accountable. But there's literally NOTHING else she can do! What is she supposed to tell her Billionaire donors NO? That would be SILLY!

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if the vice president wins in November.Most Read from BloombergWorld's Second Tallest Tower Spurs Debate About Who Needs ItThe Plan for the World’s Most Ambitious Skyscraper RenovationMadrid to Ban E-Sc

What is this, a bot post with an imperfect scraper behind it?

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

Bullet points

Most Read from Bloomberg:

  • World's Second Tallest Tower Spurs Debate About Who Needs It
  • The Plan for the World’s Most Ambitious Skyscraper Renovation
  • Madrid to Ban E-Scooter Rentals, Following Lead Set in Paris
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh so they want her to lose

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I expect they already got what they want, killing progressive enthusiasm and getting her to publicly back off wealth tax rates

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 2 months ago

Monied elites don't like them, they're doing something right. RTA. Sure enough, that's why.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

And step to the right.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Crypto bro here. Gensler has been doing an amazing job. He's been going after the scams and consistently applying the same Howey Test we've had for a century. It is perfectly clear in this case; the Howey deniers are bullshitting us because they have invested financially and emotionally in scams.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rich people trying to run the country for their own profit.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago
[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Dollars to doughnuts they are both working to close the loop holes the 1% are abusing through both of their organizations to infinitely short the stock market. Fight on you radical monkeys. Fight on.

load more comments
view more: next ›