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Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Healthier And Better For The Planet, Report Finds (plantbasednews.org)

submitted 2 months ago by Beaver@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 72 points 2 months ago (31 children)

I am once again asking for meat and dairy subsidies in the US to be shifted to alternatives like plant-based products and lab meat.

One of the biggest barriers to alternatives is the cost. Currently they cost like twice as much as the "normal" product. If they cost a roughly equal amount, more people would start buying them instead. The US has huge agriculture subsidies; we could shift them to alternatives to encourage a change in production and a change in retail purchasing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, meat is so heavily subsidized. And I’ll acknowledge that this is one of those problems that you can’t really solve unless you’re willing to yank your political career and your party. People don’t want to quit meat like they don’t want gas to be expensive enough to account for the damage done by using it

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[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

For all those replying with "well yes, we already knew this".

Yes, but now you have the numbers to back up the conclusions you've already drawn.

Of course food produced from plants will be environmentally better than those made from animals, but now, next time you see someone actually doubting that, you can rebuff them with numbers and science.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

But those numbers already existed. Those conclusions weren't drawn up out of nothing.

If 70% of the food we cultivate goes directly to our livestock, then we could only ever eat 30% of it ourselves. Meaning, for something that takes up 1/3 of our plate, we use almost 5 times as much resourses just to feed it as either of the other 2/3.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 34 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The most healthy plant based meat alternatives have always been, Beans & Legumes. You're welcome!

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'm not vegan, but I've been trying to limit my groceries to have 1 meat based dinner each week. I have really enjoyed using chickpeas as my protein for lots of different things. My favorite right now is a chickpea shawarma.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nooooooo we want them to buy the OTHER kind of plant based meat alternatives, the lucrative ones.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lentils and nuts/seeds?

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

that profit margin is puny, we want some form of processed alternative, so we can make lots of money.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

And they’re easy! Like I enjoy fake meat as a treat, but as my wife can’t eat soy my primary meat replacement is black beans. Sometimes butter beans. It’s great, it’s easy, and I feel good.

That said the real best is lentils. Nothing is healthy like lentils are. They’re just difficult to cook right

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Now make them affordable. Plant based meats cost easily double the price of meat. So I don't blame people for choosing meat.

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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh God oh fuck the admins are gonna kill you for making this post

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

They're gonna take down the post for "unhealthy diets" lol

@Rooki@lemmy.world

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Next up, the sky is blue.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wish it was more obvious to the average person as it is needed to counter the mainstream media’s false narrative that “processed plant-based protein alternatives are less healthy than meat”

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not that I doubt you, but where are you seeing them talk about it AT ALL?

I'm maybe just looking in the wrong places but beyond the occasional adverpinion piece, it's not even brought up.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

It's a common talking point amongst those who have a murderous hatred of vegans.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

You say that but there arent campaigns to disinform people that the sky is actually red.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Next you’re going to say that it’s good that my primary source of protein is high in fiber and fixes nitrogen in the soil. No shit. Over processed food is bad, but meat is really bad for the planet and while it may be healthy in small amounts it’s probably less than every day, much less every meal like is common in the developed world.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Water - wet.

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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Awesome. Now it just needs to be more affordable while tasting just as good. Right now, the stuff that actually tastes like meat is priced like a bougie, elitist luxury good.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 9 points 2 months ago

Depends where you live, some countries the vegan stuff is cheaper than the meat

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

But you don't get to torment animals

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish they weren't all so damn salty though. I get that meat is salty, but the meat alternatives go way too far with the saltiness in general in my experience.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

So much this. Last time I brought it up, I was asked "what's the matter, you don't season your food?"

Uh... There are more seasonings than SALT, yo. You can add more of it, but once it's in there...

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Pork also scored red for salt, while beef and chicken scored amber. Lamb was the only meat to receive a green rating for salt.

What? Raw meat has a negligible amount of salt. How is it not all green?

[–] ijon_the_human@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Didn't read the article but raw packaged meats are often (depending on local regulation) injected with sodium solutions.

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