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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 95 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Man, China must be watching this shitshow, looking at Outer Manchuria and wondering what exactly Russia could do about it at this point if they decided to reverse the Treaty of Aigun...

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The only response is nukes

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A nuclear power just had its sovereignty “violated.”

Nukes didn’t fly.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And this is why nuclear powers don't start stupid wars of conquest, because if they fail (normally they fail), "nukes fly".

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty soon the world is going to need proof that they have even one working warhead before that stops being a viable defense.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 61 points 2 months ago

We'll let them take Palin as a snack if they're still hungry after annexing Green Ukraine

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is there anything between the Urals and Alaska that would slow down an invading army? Other than the lack of infrastructure.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just like everything. Forests, swamps, rivers, extreme weather. There's a reason people don't live in that part of the world

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'd slightly categorize that under "lack of infrastructure". Taiga covers 12% of Earth's land area and is difficult to travel in. 25% of Earth's land area is mountainous, 33% desert, 7% rainforest...

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Well that, and the politics.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vast marshes that are impassable for vehicles when they're not frozen, I think?

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes. Putin has been acting like global warming will unlock more Russian land for production. Turns out the permafrost areas are such because they were mostly giant bogs before freezing.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

The explosions of Methane as it thaws is interesting and worrying. Definitely not a place that people are going to want to live in even when warmer.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Oh noes, 🦟 biolab swarms!1!!

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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 months ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Well there's the Bering Sea.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

No, just look in to history they have lost control of it 1918-1920.

As my friend says "I will join army only if I can ride trains through Siberia and shoot ruzzians, as my grandfather."

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Mud, forest, rivers, lack of roads.

Plus an absolute shit ton of skeeters

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (5 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/u/LearnedDonkey@kbin.earth permanently banned, not for being a tankie, but for weird ass, bot-like responses. If you see a suspected bot, don't feed it, [like I did], just report it. TIA morons

[–] generaldenmark@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your work 💚

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

👍 Chuck Norris-style, weary thumbs-up

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hope their spy agency set up a colab government or they will have to actually push that far.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well there is the russian freedom army or what its called.

You know, white blue white. Those guys

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So then Ukraine can puppet easier in the peace deal??

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They probably wont puppet, but government change and take their core states back

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Could demand resource rights and take the navy if they play it right. We all know russia will not be able to rebuild it.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mineral rights would be extremely valuable, but not even the Elbonian navy would take Russian nave vessels for anything but as practice targets........

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Sell them for scrap just like Pepsi. But mainly just to get rid of them.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What navy? HA!

I in full honestly, would ukraine actually defeat russia hoi4 style we should supervise their democracy like they did with west germany post ww2

[–] zerosignal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What navy? HA!

They recently transferred a lot of their ships to the submarine fleet

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Battlefield conversions

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