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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 58 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Anyone think the Log Cabin Republicans are smart enough to see where this is headed?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... Republicans ... smart enough ...

The two are mutually exclusive at this point.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Don't sleep on Kentucky Republicans. Horse thieves and swindlers extra-ordinaire, the lot of 'em.

Source: my in-laws

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

🤣

I know, I know

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fucking hell. I thought we were done with this bitch.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

As long as Mat Stavrer can keep bilking her (and idiot Republican supporters) for more attorney's fees, we'll never be rid of her.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

When I saw the headline I legit thought maybe the website had some crazy error and put a really old article on the homepage lol

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They wrote that, “even if substantive due process is not itself overturned, Obergefell should be, because the right to same-sex marriage is neither carefully described nor deeply rooted in the nation’s history.”

Where is marriage "carefully described?" As far as "deeply rooted in the nation's history," would that include the lifelong bachelor, president James Buchanan? How about Thomas Jefferson and his slave he was not married to, but took around publicly as his mistress? How about Ben Franklin fucking every woman, married or unmarried, that was willing?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ben franklin was a champion cocksmith.

The smile on the hundred dollar bill is in a completely different light if you understand that

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Did you see the John Adams miniseries HBO did a few years ago? Tom Wilkinson as Franklin was hilarious.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“Deeply Rooted”? This country isn’t even 4 Joe Bidens old, our deep roots are slavery & smallpox blankets.

E: credit to Mark Agee for the 4 Bidens thing, I knew I’d heard it somewhere…

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Ah ha, there it is.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm betting 5-4 in favor of throwing this out.

Gorsuch came down hard on Bostock, which makes me think he'd be skeptical of overturning Obergefell (which he wasn't on the court to rule on originally).

Roberts is married to process well enough that I don't think he can find it in himself to violate stare decisis on a case he was actually chief justice for, even if he did vote against the first time. Plus a lot has changed since 2015, and the court took a hard swing right. The dude has always kinda been that middle man referee, so I think that's another drop in the "would shoot this down" bucket.

That only leaves Alito, Thomas, Kavenaugh, and Barrett. Alito and Thomas will always vote for the craziest possible position, so they're right out. Kavenaugh and Barrett are more of a coin toss, but I lean towards them having their own, separate dissent if Bostock is any indication (which Kavenaugh dissented on, but not with Alito and Thomas. Barrett had yet to join.)

So my gut is that this isn't going anywhere. I'd honestly be surprised if the supreme court even took it up.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hope you're right. Otherwise, it would leave the nation in a legal quagmire as marriage would be legally defined differently in different states. And I think that it could also usher in the re-introduction of anti-miscegination laws.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for teaching me a new word today!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which word, miscegination? Not a great word to learn.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago

That's the one. It's a shame to have to know it, but I'm glad I do now.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Which, of all people, Thomas would gleefully allow

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Ugh, this horrible woman again?