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I get that some instances use the domain + TLD to make a word, like lemm.ee or to an extent, sh.itjust.works. But I've seen so many TLDs I had no idea existed, like .world, .zone, .social, and yes .works as well.

Is there any real reason for that? Trying to look cool or kinda underground-y? Cheaper and more varied domain options? Something actually kinda functional?

Interestingly, I started on vlemmy.net because I was a scared Reddit refugee and the .net TLD gave me comfort. Then it vanished a few days later without a trace. So here I am on lemmy.world

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[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 137 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because it's no longer 1996 and there are domains beyond ccTLDs and com/net/org?

[–] Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 74 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not 1996 anymore?!! Why didn't somebody tell me? My license is probably expired.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One day it was just 1997. Damnedest thing, there was no vote or anything. Frankly I think it was a bad move.

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, straight from Macarena to Tubthumping and nobody even noticed.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I hate that my brain played little riffs of both of those songs for me just by seeing their titles.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

That was an upgrade, imo

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You can buy .zip if you want to now... that still doesn't sit right with me

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for .rar so I can buy unregistered.rar, which is the way it's meant to be.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I'm waiting for .7z because it doesn't nag me to register it.

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

From what I've heard, .zip is basically only used for malware

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Similarly, I've never seen a .xyz that wasn't used for altchans or sketchy porn sites

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[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Weird" TLDs tend to be cheaper. .social is also supposed to be made for this in the first place

[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

icecream.social is available, and I really want it, but I just can't justify the $800 a year, even if the name is amazing.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

That's insanely expensive. I suspect that icream.socal is a lot cheaper.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real reason is because it's expensive to get a short and good .com name and also because it's very corporate and boring.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Commercial sites have .COM

Why do porn sites not have .CUM?

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ehm, .xxx works fine for them. (And there's more pr0n then male oriented hetro pr0n)

Hmmm, x.xxx as mastodon server just to annoy extwitter.

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[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because porn sites are commercial sites.

hmm… lemmynsfw.com

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

FOSS people have...weird taste in naming stuff. See: GIMP, GNU, et al.,

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu is a South African ethical ideology focusing on people's allegiances and relations with each other. The word comes from the Zulu and Xhosa languages.

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[–] koreth@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemm.ee's admin is Estonian, so that one at least makes sense.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They look better and more quirky than the "usual" ones. Also, sometimes they might be even cheaper

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, I think they're always cheaper!

[–] bluefirex@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Definitely not. Some examples (actual prices I pay for my various domains):

  • com: $18/y (gTLD)
  • net: $19/y (gTLD)
  • de: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
  • re: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
  • design: $49/y
  • tech: $55/y
  • blue: $23/y
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[–] echutaa@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where? I never see the weird stuff cheaper than gTLD’s

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cost of domain name tends to be cheaper with more obscure Top Level Domains (TLDs). .com .org .net TLDs are expensive because they are popular and high in demand. You have to rent them out most of the time. Many are already claimed so you either have to buy the owner out or wait till they stop paying and it expires if you really want it, .xyz is very cheap and uncommon on the other hand thus pennies on the dime per year to rent. Also depending on where you live and your occupation you can actually get a domain name for free through registering with specific services that actually for real own the Top Level Domains. If you are a citizen of a certain country you can get a .us or .cad or .eu .ml domain ect either for free or very very cheap.

Check out this list for all TLDs and if you qualify for one for free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains

Heres a free domain name registar thats quite promising from the looks of it, most likely the one that lemmy.ml uses https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en

[–] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Why does ICANN allow so many weird domains to begin with? Domains used to be a good way to tell if you were going to the legit website.

.com - commercial entity .gov - government only .edu - educational entities only .net - network providers (ISP) only .org - non profit only

Those days are gone.

Now there’s Startrek.website and Startrek.com — how does the user know which one is owned by Paramount/Star Trek?

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 21 points 1 year ago

I feel like that's been the case for a while now. You pretty much need a search engine and some sort of bookmarks tool to use the web.

I don't know immediately if The Verges website URL contains a "the" or if BBC uses a .com or a .uk. I search both when looking for news at work so I don't accidentally end up on porn.

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me, it's the .zip domain. (recently added at the request of google)

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That one in particular is a bomb waiting to blow. Is this link to a webpage or to a malicious download? Who knows! Guess we'll just have to click on it and see if anything starts downloading.

Using file extensions for your TLD should be a big no-no for a lot of reasons, that being one of them.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Using file extensions for your TLD should be a big no-no for a lot of reasons, that being one of them.

That is what I said about .com.

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That's the best thing ever - next let's do .exe.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

i own a .xyz domain, the .com equivalent was 50 times more expensive

[–] rar@discuss.online 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

New gTLDs have been released constantly since ICANN dropped the restriction. Also consider that a lot of Lemmy instances are run by individuals as a side project. That means they'll reuse or nab whatever cool sounding domain they can get to spin up their new instance as quickly as possible. Corporate websites might pause and consider a more "marketable" domain.

Personal theory of mine is *.itjust.works meant to stand for "It Just Works" until they decided to give this Lemmy thing a go.

[–] Taival@suppo.fi 11 points 1 year ago

Personal theory of mine is *.itjust.works meant to stand for "It Just Works" until they decided to give this Lemmy thing a go.

Yep it's referencing a meme that originated almost a decade ago. https://youtu.be/nVqcxarP9J4

[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 18 points 1 year ago

Registration and renewal cost plus more availability, most shorter names are taken on the older tlds.

I came up with mine by scrolling through tldlist comparing prices and going with the first idea that popped in my head.

[–] A10@kerala.party 16 points 1 year ago

What better place for people to get together and have fun? No ... it was cheap and domain name was available.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because people think domain hacks are cool, and also, gTLDs are usually more expensive.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago
[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 8 points 1 year ago

It’s fun! From lib.lgbt.

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