• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Listening to podcasts and reading social media sometimes makes it feel like everyone but me has an office job

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      8 months ago

      I was a construction worker and welder for 12 years before I switched to IT, after seeing what a retirement-age welder looks like.

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        8 months ago

        tbf it doesn’t help that a lot of blue collar workers insist on being fucking idiots and ignoring safety procedures, there’s a bloody reason you wear special gear when welding

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      I’ve been doing office work for so long now I wouldn’t even know how to do a real job anymore. It’s crazy that my office job pays more than a service or custodial job considering the effort involved. I wish it wasn’t this way

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          Yeah, where are all these office jobs where you just do fuck all

          if I am off my work by a bit I get half the company breathing down my neck

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            It depends on the field, and it’s also dependent on how good a person gets at their position.

            Most of my time is spent looking at prints and customer specs and trying to come up with an engineering solution. Describing my job as doodling and thinking makes it sound like one of those jobs where a person doesn’t do shit.

            Also there are also of people with MBA’s whose only job is enshitify everything for short term gain. They don’t really do shit but act like the smartest person in the room.

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              I would say that having to sustain mental effort on a task isn’t doing nothing, even if you’re not doing some super involved task.

              Most of my current job is researching a client issue, digging through (really badly made and badly maintained) documentation, and giving a solution. The last part is about 20% of my job I’d say.

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            Anything that is described as “knowledge work” is usually closer to this. It’s might still hard, but in a different way, and you’re respected and people don’t question you as long as you get results.

            But bullshit jobs still feel like work it’s that what we produce from our work might not really be necessary, or good.

            If this doesn’t describe you then it’s not about you, though

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              I definitely have a bullshit job, but it’s lower down in the hierarchy (read: underpaid but without my work nothing in the company happens)

              The people above me definitely don’t seem to have shit to do because all of the people from my team that were “underperforming” had an individual meeting with an HR lead, our team lead, and the market operations lead. To basically tell us “yeah you have to work harder and we don’t care if it’s physically impossible and you’re not getting support”

              /rant

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            They are out there. I do production support and there is always more work than hors in the day for me. One of my friends who started at the company same time as me (we were in the same training class when we started at tech support) now works in our underwriting department and he has 3 or 4 hous of work to do a day the rest of the time he watches tv or movies. I enjoy the high stress and would go bananas doing his job, but theses jobs do exist.

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          the problem is that a lot of office jobs are effectively made up to employ people, like if i pay someone to solve arbitrary maths problems that’s not a real job, i’m just making them do work to be able to buy food because i’m a dick.

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          I’m happy for you. So is mine, it requires all of my mental energy. I would even say it’s enjoyable and rewarding. But unfortunately does not do much to help people other than making some of us a lot of money.

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        Also, in my experience with more hands-on jobs, the whole crew usually breaks or slacks off together. So there’s a lot more talking in a circle than posting and infinite doom scrolling.

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          I sure did a lot of chatting at my last office job, but I can’t help it I always have to babble so that might be why :x

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      According to David Graeber, the rise of a type of office jobs he called “bullshit jobs” gave rise to podcasts and social media

  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I feel like I won the tech lottery. Every job I had in the past 13 years trusted the people they hired to work where they want, in the office or remotely. Roughly four different companies.

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      At my last company we were allowed to work remotely full-time if we wanted, so I did. Then we got acquired by a west coast tech giant and six months later everybody who had been working remotely was laid off. A few months later they closed down the offices of my original company and laid off everybody who wasn’t willing to relocate from DC to California. And then a few months after that they laid off everybody from my original company who had relocated to California. And all of this only happened because my original company was a very minor competitor in the tech giant’s space.

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        That sucks, what a awful experience.

        I do remember that happening to one of my prior jobs and leaving when I saw the writing on the wall. So it may also be a bit of my own drive to only work for companies that has that culture.

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        The logical outcome should be that all workers in that company start looking for another work and leave as fast as they can.