Setting aside the usual arguments on the anti- and pro-AI art debate and the nature of creativity itself, perhaps the negative reaction that the Redditor encountered is part of a sea change in opinion among many people that think corporate AI platforms are exploitive and extractive in nature because their datasets rely on copyrighted material without the original artists’ permission. And that’s without getting into AI’s negative drag on the environment.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 months ago

    But why isn’t such an exploration a form of art?

    If someone does a complicated abstract painting but uses a ruler and a protractor to achieve it, is that art?

    • barsoap@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      Because I make a distinction between art and craft. You can produce extraordinarily impressive pieces of craft that have no artistic content at all, no intent nor capacity to convey a message or transform mind or anything that resembles it, you can produce extraordinary pieces of art with zero recourse to craft. Like putting a urinal on a pedestal, as I’ve mentioned quite often in this thread.

      Speaking about protractors: Engineering drawings can actually be art. There’s a difference between a drawing that’s merely conveying technical information and one that is both technical and at the same time is arranged, presented, such that it does not have to be deciphered, it is capable of transforming a mind by merely being looked at, instead of having to be pondered. It’s the difference between a court file and a thrilling detective story.

        • barsoap@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          Nah not like that. Art is something on top of the mundane and with technical drawings it happens to be that kind of stuff.