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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago

Trump on NATO:

“‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”

Trump criticizes Trump

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago

He’s broke.

Not a sudden revelation, perhaps. But that won’t stop me from snickering

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Finally, lack of money is what will stop him appealing every (fucking) judgments.

[–] ceiphas@feddit.de -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But he secured the funding through the RNC... more money to appeal everything, and it isn't even his money

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No he didn't. They don't have enough money.

In NY State you have to pay up before you appeal. That's to prevent someone just appealing to delay payment.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So he can still appeal, but NY can/will begin liquidating his properties to satisfy his penalty while he waits for his appeal to play out (they'll have taken everything they can by the time his appeal is even heard more than likely - as courts are backed up).

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Ah, you're right. He can appeal but it doesn't delay the payment process. He's going nuts because no one will lend him money. He says it's an "inconvenience because he has to sell properties". He should never have had that money in the first place! He owes all those back taxes from lying about the value of his properties.

I saw someone describe it like this:

This is like someone who is convicted of fraud complaining that it's an inconvenience to give the money back.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Are they actually going to have the spine to throw his ass in jail if he misses the payment? How long do you have to be poor before they start enforcing the law?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Property seizure, I think.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didn't throw him in jail that would cause riots. Start seizing property and auction it publicly.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He's going to incite riots either way. Let's be honest.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Doubtful, the easiest way to collapse a cult of personality is to have cult tear them apart. In this case his fanatic fanbase will bleed him dry to own something he owned, imagine if a neo Nazi could have owned Hitler's brush while Hitler lived. They would legit never shut the duck up about it and would brag to everyone, same things applies here.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Doubtful? They already did.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really? That's an easy answer...

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Jan 6th which a. Happened before b. I'd a different situation though both could likely be disarmed the same way.

[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You presume correctly, anything else you have to say is irrelevant

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Well thank you for your input however wrong it might be.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, that's a different claim though. This person claims riots to have already occurred because of it, to wit - where?

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That other person argued that the riots already occurred and you falsely dismissed them. It was my position that he's going to call for riots whether his property gets seized or not, and I'll add that he can't do it as effectively if he's in a 6x10 cell without any of his personal possessions with him.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He might call for them, he does for everything. The difference being people will go to the auction to buy his shit, can't do that at a riot and say for instance it does turn to a riot or would be at his property and they would be stealing his shit. To wit - have at why even wait for the auction, that fucks kids got over 2billion while he was in office so take it back if you feel like it.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No offense but that argument is goofy at best

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

I don't think jail is on the table because it's a civil case. Instead, they would begin to seize property and assets.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's half a billion dollars, Michael. How much could it cost?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago

It's what a real billionaire (Bloomberg) spent on ads for his campaign, before dropping out and continuing to enjoy his private island or whatever real billionaires do. Trump is just broke.

[–] Johnvanjim@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

There is always money in the banana stand

[–] Weirdmusic@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The reality is that all his "weath" is tied up in realestate but that's actually not even true. Due to the his spectacular bankruptcy the banks took all his realestate and forced him to pay a (small fraction) back in installments. Even if New York liquidated all of his assets there'd be bugger all in cash retrieved and he'd STILL be in hock to the banks.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Yep. Even including all his assets there's not enough there.

Only option he has left is the gop sucker voters. This was the real reason he took over the rnc.

Money. He's broke.

[–] NRay7882@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

He can't, but Letitia James will secure a lot of property for the going value.

[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What? Won't creditors accept real estate as security from a man found guilty of fraudulently overvalue his real estate in orde to use as security for the exact purpose of lending more money in a money lending scheme? Shocking!

I wonder, though: if the state of NY expropriate real estate to sell to highest bidder and those auctions fail to meet market value, won't that create chain reactions? A) the creditor(s) which had that particular building as security will see the value of their asset turn to zero because of negligence from their customer "billionaire", which should open for a case against Trump for both immediate repayment of the loan and subsequent damages, and B) send a clear signal to all other creditors that they need to secure their assets asap?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Fun fact. Trump doesn't own a lot of the real estate with the trump name on it. Also the stuff he does "own" is really owned by the bank.

Id be surprised if a single property isn't leveraged to the maximum already.

Everyone who knows knows there's nothing there to take, really.

[–] homain@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

but he's such a good businessman

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! This is terrible!

Ima send him some money as soon as I finish watching paint dry.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

That paint will dry, fade, and peel before Trump pays his debts.

[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Take the plane!!