• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I’m not am expert in it, my partner does research in climate adaptation, and there are people who do that research in her department. As far as I’ve heard, there isn’t anything that promising on the horizon. And I can’t stress this enough, we should not be relying on tech to try to save us when all we have to do is stop burning fossil fuels. It’s really that simple. But everybody wants business as usual, so we’re putting our hopes in pipedream technology that doesn’t exist hoping it will save us from ourselves. Seems pretty stupid to me.

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      11 months ago

      Ha ok, changed a bit now hasn’t it? So you talk to your partner in depth about these subjects but can’t ask about it to help you answer the questions because of reasons…

      What you actually mean is without doing any research you assumed something that fits with your preconceived dislike of technology solutions? Or maybe you just saw someone else say it so repeated it with a slightly exaggerated truthiness tone to and make it seem more believable.

      Stop burning fossil fuels isn’t something we can just do over night, especially when people fight against good alternatives - and double especially when people fight against them based on knee jerk emotional response without really knowing much about it…

      Carbon based efuels are going to be a huge part in the transition to an ecologically sustainable society, the model using sequestered carbon and renewable power generation is just one of several incredibly promising areas of chemistry at the moment.

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        11 months ago

        Carbon based efuels are going to be a huge part in the transition to an ecologically sustainable society, the model using sequestered carbon and renewable power generation is just one of several incredibly promising areas of chemistry at the moment.

        Exactly, everybody thinks technology is going to save us from ourselves, and that’s why we are fucked.

        And for the record, I didn’t ask my partner about any of this bcz she was out of town at a conference. Why would I bother her while she’s working to settle a dumb internet argument?

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          11 months ago

          Of course she was.

          And now we see the real emotion behind your desire to dismiss tech solutions.

          It’s sad but I really think a lot of people would rather feel smug about the world burning than put out the fire.

          I genuinely think a lot of the resistance to renewable adoption comes from people scarred that it’ll work. Modern chemistry is absolutely amazing, for some reason their successes upset people - you see it everywhere, did you go as far to reject the vaccine? That’s the same ‘it must be bad it’s science’ thinking.

          The USAF have performed huge studies on SAF (sustainable aviation fuel) and have concluded they’re effective, reliable, and economically competitive - this isn’t some hippy idealism or scientific fanboyism it’s the cold calculated reality of the most advanced war machine in the world.

          They already work, they tested them in all their engines and decided that an e-fuel made from sequestered carbon is the best solution - other saf have been used in transatlantic flights by commercial airlines for a while now, generally in a blended mix with kerosene but pure saf flights have been made.

          It’s not common yet because we don’t have the infrastructure established to make them in significant quantities, this is changing with various facilities being built but it could change a lot quicker if there was a push to support transition technologies rather than a knee jerk anti science sentimentalism wrapped in fraudulent pretence of ‘but I read all the research…’ - this isn’t a flat earth, vaccines aren’t from the devil, and we’re not going to drop oil use without a viable replacement.

          We need carbon sequestration, we need to support research into that rather than pretending to care about the plant as some form of dunk on progress. It’s just like the train line we tried to build in the UK, it would have cut down the ecological cost of cargo transport hugely and reduced the amount of lorries on the road significantly but eco warriors waged war on its construction attacking machinery, blocking it’s path with tunnels, and endless propaganda against it that got pushed by people who hate progress in any form.

          And remember this is only one of the promising technologies, I don’t think it’s even the most promising tbh but its one of the easier to explain and is incredibly promising. You of course know know all this because of the regular in detail conversations you have about it with your double doctor scientist partner who has a very busy schedule.