• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I am very sorry that the leaders of Denmark are willing to give up their right of freedom of speech of their population for so little. I wonder what rights they will give up next as part of their appeasement.

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          11 months ago

          And you can whine on lemmy about a countries policy that has nothing to do with you, but it’s not going to change anything.

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              11 months ago

              Oh you can have an opinion, just no one is required to take you seriously

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                11 months ago

                Don’t see where I said otherwise. You have an opinion that I have no right to insult skydaddy and I have an opinion that both of us do. One of us has an opinion that freedom to speak your views is important and the other one does not.

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                  11 months ago

                  I mean if you read my comments you would no I still support your right to insult “skydaddy” you’ve taken the fact I disagree with you and extrapolated that mean I think the complete opposite of you on anything.

                  Imo, burning books is not “speech” so there is no loss of freedom of speech here. Much like how banning people from burning crosses outside black people’s houses or doing the nazi salute to Jewish people is not violating free speech.

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      11 months ago

      Would you also consider chants such as “death to all Jews/gays/black people” or actions such as burning trans flag as freedom of speech and do you believe it should be tolerated?

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        11 months ago

        No. This isn’t 20 questions and it is not on me to go through every situation. Sorry you don’t give a shit about your right to speak your mind go find some shaman and hand yourself over to them.

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          11 months ago

          Sorry, but then I do not understand your logic. To me it seems like you are saying that people should be able to burn Quran (because freedom of speech) but at the same time you believe that burning a trans flag* should not be tolerated. Where is the difference? I am not saying that your opinion is incorrect, I am just unsure what your stand is because suddenly when your logic is applied to a different situation, you refuse to respond

          Also, if you believe that ad hominem will make your argument look stronger, then you are clearly wrong.

          *Just to make sure: I support all LGBTI rights, I just used them as a comparison.

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            11 months ago

            My logic is I don’t want to waste time dealing with literally every single example out there in the borderline between freedom of expression ends and active harassment begins. I am not a judge, I am not an elected official, I am not a lawyer, and I am definitely not an expert on free speech law in Denmark.

            Generally yes you should be legally allowed to express any vile opinion you have and do it in a vile way. That doesn’t mean you get to go in front of someone’s house at 3 am screaming racial slurs at them while waving around a knife. The people of Denmark are giving up freedom for security and it is security from shamans. That makes me sad.