Are you good at concentrating your attention? Of course you are. That’s something that people with ADHD, Aspergers etc can do better than anybody else.

Concentration is a magic power. Attention is the axis of reality. Yes.

That’s a power that you have naturally. You can do it better than everybody else. And with practice you can get even better. There is no limit.

There were groups of people who dedicated their whole life to seeing how deep they could go with concentration. (and there are other things that you can do with your attention too. Things that are even better than concentration.)

For lack of a better term let’s call these people “wizards”.

Their preferred recruits were people with ADHD, Aspergers etc.

Because people with ADHD, Aspergers etc are very good at concentrating their attention.

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    Hyperfocus is great. Too bad you don’t get to pick what you focus on. ADHD isn’t a lack of attention. It’s a lack of control over attention.

    Anyway, I’m going to go back to learning everything about cashews. I don’t want to know about cashews, but it’s not my fuckin choice, now is it.

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      But you are focusing on this conversation. Is it just luck that we’re having this talk or did you choose to reply?

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        This is like asking someone: “Are you sure you have a bad heart? You don’t appear to be having a heart attack right this very second.”

        Having concentration problems does not mean one can never concentrate. Especially ridiculous to propose in response to such a short comment.

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            What are you talking about? How on earth did you extrapolate that?

            Or did you take the fact that concentration problems aren’t typically constant as a positive trait somehow?

            If someone has seizures every hour, it doesn’t make their seizures a positive trait just because they’re not constant.

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              But we aren’t talking about those things. We’re talking about an affliction of the attention that includes the phenomenon of hyperfocus, which is a pretty amazing power.

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                Man, you really can’t comprehend analogies, can you?..

                I know what hyper-focus is on a personal level as someone with ADHD. I also have a BS in psychology, 6 years experience as a specialized caseworker for adults who are disabled due to serious mental illness, and I was just accepted into a clinical counseling masters of science program.

                You are so utterly misguided and this is not only falling flat, but it’s trivializing the symptoms people struggle with. It’s not helpful. In fact, it is the opposite…

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        Holy shit. This is the most ick fucking cringe reply you could come up with.

        This is the reply equivalent of people saying that climate change isn’t real and global warming isn’t happening because it gets cold in winter.

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    I get that you’re trying to look at the potential positives of a situation. But your telling a group of people who are struggling to keep their heads above water how amazing it is they can hold their breath for so long. No shit we can hold our breath, the alternative is to drowned.

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    Bro, this shit is straight up insulting. Just shut the fuck up about things you very clearly don’t understand.

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        What about it? It’s not something we’re in control of. It just kinda happens. It can be extremely disruptive to our lives, hence the qualification of it being diagnostic criteria for a disorder. For someone who experiences it as something destructive in their life, it’s pretty fucking insulting to hear some jackass mythicize it as some “superpower”. Especially after demonstrating a lack of knowledge on a subject they seem to feel entitled to have an opinion about anyway.

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            Are you trolling, or are you just legitimately that oblivious to the experiences of others?

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                Looking through your post history, you’re either the worst kind of troll, by which I mean you’re an extremely awful person, or you’re way the fuck off base for one or multiple reasons. I personally think you’re some young kid that believes they figured out some new age bullshit or something.

                But also, you show lots of signs of psychotic episodes. Magical thinking, special knowledge, disordered thoughts/speech, etc. You doing okay?

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                  I personally think you’re some young kid that believes they figured out some new age bullshit or something.

                  That was absolutely my first thought. Haven’t looked at their history, but saw this post and one on the Autism community back-to-back.

                  I feel like their intentions are good, but the results are insulting and borderline delusional.

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    This is a very pinky view of the topic, a barbie way of seeing this. Sorry. Somehow the D stands for something. And believe it or not, it’s not a superpower.

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    This trope that ADHD is somehow a fucking gift needs to die. It’s not. I don’t need it to be who I am and it sure as fucking fuck didn’t help me get ahead in life. It wasn’t the price of being smart, everyone else is my family is smart without having to worry about things I do. Just… No. You’re wrong about this.

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      I speak from experience. Maybe you speak from an absence of experience? I don’t mean experience with the “affliction”, but experience with going further in concentration too. There’s something amazing there.

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      How about both? A good side and also a bad side. As things in reality generally are.

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        I have EDS. I am 31 and haven’t had a day without pain since 2nd grade. It’s made me a tough son of a bitch with a crazy pain tolerance. That’s come in handy, like when I jumped in to save my dog from a stray that attacked him. You can say my pain tolerance is a positive outcome of my degenerative joint condition.

        If you came up to me trying to frame my suffering as something I should be chipper about, I’d probably chew you up and spit you in the trash.

        This is just blatantly ignorant to anyone with any sense. You’re just being disrespectful and demonstrating that you are disconnected from the reality of the situation.

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          You aren’t replying to what I actually said. You are taking a ragey tangent.

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            I’m not raging. I’m perfecly calm. I’m just from NJ haha.

            And it’s called an analogy; not a tangent.

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    I’ve thought of it like that before.

    But it’s like when I think about politics and human progression or regression in society. There’re a lot of ideological ways to ‘fix’ the world in theory, but if one were to make those ideas plausible reality would have to be completely different. Ime it’s hopeless to have that mindset, it’s a set up for failure and negative social dissonance. But even though I know that… I still find myself doing it.

    I can think of great things but at the end of the day it doesn’t change the world or help me.

    Wishful thinking is sometimes better in small doses?

    Sorry I’m probably way off track. 🫠

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      Have you tried going deeper with concentration? I have.

      I am impressed, obviously.

      Merely “thinking about it like that” won’t show you what’s there. You have to actually do it.

      Consider what concentration has done for you. What it’s done for our culture.

      It can go further.