• daftwerder@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    No kidding. IDF is bombing hospitals already… so yeah if you see a tank roll up what are you gonna do?

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      1 year ago

      Pull that RPG out of nowhere because they didn’t already weapons and explosives stored in a hospital as that would be a war crime and the exact reason a military force would attack a hospital in the first place?

      • daftwerder@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        I don’t see how ANYTHING would justify bombing a hospital full of innocent people.

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          1 year ago

          I don’t see how you can justify Hamas intentionally fighting from hospitals, specifically so they get bombed and you can use it as PR against the IDF.

          • daftwerder@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            It’s not PR. Do you think they want to get themselves and others killed? IDF is responsible for their own actions in the country they have occupied and oppressed for 55 years.

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              1 year ago

              Do you think they want to get themselves and others killed?

              Dude, they’re radical Islamic soldiers who routinely kill themselves in jihad, fighting along civilians they have actively put in harms way.

              YES I believe they want to get themselves and as many Palestinians killed as possible. They just want to kill a few thousand Israelis in the process.

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          1 year ago

          I disagree, but also hate you were downvoted without anyone having the balls to reply.

          Ignoring who is who, let’s throw in a scenario where a hospital is being used to stage attacks against you - your family, your city, your country, doesn’t matter. You have two options - do something or do nothing.

          1, do something. You could blockade the hospital, but then you are blamed for the patients suffering. You could send in aid for the patients, but this gets stolen and never reaches them anyway. Innocents will die. For some reason the people holding the hospital aren’t blamed for this.

          You could bomb it, to try and force a surrender when hostile realise they aren’t safe. Innocents will die.

          You could swap supplies for patients and send them somewhere else. Supplies are used against you, conflict is prolonged and those remaining suffer. Innocents will die.

          You could put armored vehicles outside as a show of force. Weapons being stored on site illegally are fired against you. They are operating in defense. Nothing changes, innocents will die.

          You could invade the hospital to arrest or kill those holding the hospital - an enclosed building with multiple chokepoints, ambush locations, CQB. Civilians will be caught in the crossfire, you and those with you are likely to die, the intl community will be outraged at you and anyone can just drop their weapons and pretend to be a civilian. Innocents will die, no guarantee of success, you may die.

          2, do nothing. These attacks continue. They know you won’t come get them so they operate with immunity. Supplies destined for civilians are used against you innocents suffer. They know they can take another, possibly one of yours and you won’t do anything. Doesn’t matter if its a war crime to take civilian hostages, so what will others matter if I have shields to protect me. Innocents will die, nothing changes.

          What realistic options would you have?

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            1 year ago

            I don’t really care about downvotes too it just reminds me the fascists, country subs brigading on the other site to bury anything they don’t like. It seems Fediverse imported them along with individuals. Living in an oppressive state where government breeds millions of fascists, fanatics I really know the mentality. BTW thanks to EU for condemning them from time to time.