With Star Trek thriving in its renaissance, what’s holding Stargate back from its own rebirth?

Is fan interest too low, or are tangled rights keeping the gate shut, as it were?

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    https://cosmicbook.news/stargate-reboot-amazon-exec-ousted

    It sounds like a Stargate reboot — or more of a revival, a continuation of the original — is now closer than ever to happening at Amazon, reportedly due to the exit of Jennifer Salke, who blocked its development and kept it from moving forward.

    Sounds like an Amazon exec wasn’t a fan

    Pretty sad that’s all it takes and the IP is held hostage away from the fans

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Up to 1978 it was a 14 year term, and you can apply for a second 14 year term.

      28 years after you created an IP, it was open season. The first SG-1 episode was 1997 btw, 28 years ago.

      Now it’s the authors entire life plus 70 more years.

      We need to start fixing the shit the boomers broke instead of just accepting it because we weren’t alive when it made sense.

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      due to the exit of Jennifer Salke, who blocked its development and kept it from moving forward.

      Did they check her for a symbiote? Maybe she was Goa’uld.

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    Amazon/MGM owns the property. I’m guessing Bezos wants all the sci-fi/fantasy production money poured into lord of The Rings and James Bond franchises.

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      Given the billion dollar turd that was Rings of Power Season 2, I’m actually happy to let Stargate sleep

      Besides, there’s nothing special about the franchise on its face. “Government finds portal to alien worlds” is the setup for a dozen other SciFi franchises, from Babylon 5 to Sliders.

      You don’t need the license to Stargate to tell all the same stories. Make it about the Greeks or Mayans or the Moai. The portal is in the Parthanon or via those Easter Island heads or whatever. It’s the same movie.

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      I don’t think Bezos was a blocker here, allegedly he was a fan of Stargate. I remember that being specifically called out when Amazon acquired MGM.

  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Star Trek is definitely not thriving. It’s more like Apophis before he died, pathetic and old, an ossified parasite begging for a new host to inhabit and latch onto. Star Trek is dead and Alex Kurtzman, Secret Hideout and Hollywood nepotism killed it.

    Stargate, Firefly and Enterprise can live on as the last good sci-fi shows of the 20th century culture. The Expanse, For All Mankind are all really good modern sci-fi works, with the latter being ran by a major Star Trek writer for TNG and DS9 - Ronald D Moore.

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    I’m curious what a new Stargate show would even look like. The strongest part of Stargate’s identity was modern earth interacting with the scifi stuff out there. Throughout the shows, earth kept unlocking more of the XCOM tech tree until it was finally granted Asgard knowledge. SGU was able to somewhat sidestep this by mostly being isolated from earth, but a new show would have to deal with the fact earth (or at least the governments of earth) have had access to advanced alien technology for decades.

    A new show could lean into that, but to me that kind of takes away what is special about Stargate and just turns it into another space opera. A new show could also hit a big reset button by denying earth access to the Asgard knowledge again and somehow taking away a bunch of the backup knowledge to de-power earth, but that route has the danger of feeling cheap and having details not make sense.

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        fuck no. Not everything needs rebooting. If they don’t want to continue the series that’s one thing, but I don’t want a darker, slower, mumblier, grittier reboot, that tries to teach me a lesson after each episode, that will probably make Teal’c into a famous stand-up comedian to subvert fan expectations for a familiar yet fresh feel.

        Reboots are usually depressing af

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        A choice which also has many downsides.

        It just seems really difficult to envision a way to put Stargate back on TV that isn’t somewhere between underwhelming to full on disaster.

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    Sometimes it’s better to let a classic stay in its heyday. Please don’t let them ruin it: Stargate Atlantis was bad enough.

    What made the original Stargate so appealing was its small scale. A group of perfectly cast adventurers going out for the adventure of the day. I would miss any of the original cast

    I suppose doing it in the original style with some random other team “SG-37”. They can stay true to the spirit without conflict. But we don’t need another vast all encompassing space opera

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    iirc in addition to the exec thing mentioned, i think the creators of the original movie were also interested in doing something which may have led to an internal tug of war between them and anyone interested in doing anything in the show universe. and more recently there may also be some hesitation with a show glorifying the US military given, uh gestures at everything

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      I just hated the Galactica shakycam. The premise was mostly interesting (if not a bit gimmicky) and I was really curious where it could go. Oh well…

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      Sexy edgy character drama with occasional glances at stars. Even some science fiction/fantasy every once in a blue moon.

      Using the body-swap tech that was used maybe once or twice in SG-1 and Atlantis as a main plot mechanism was pretty dumb too. Even if the viewer understood it, it was quite jarring to remember who’s face was attached to which penis.

      Would probably live on for 300 seasons now with how much modern show content is lacking in true creativity and just focuses on viewer stats.

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      i honestly never understood this, as among friends and even strangers met through friends were sad the show never finished.

      i guess there was a lot of backlash I wasn’t aware of internet-wise. but I was super invested.

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        It was a big shift in tone and overall style. Fans wanted more Stargate (especially with Atlantis cancelled) and got a wildly different style of show with a Stargate theme.

        In S2 the Stargate spirit started to show a little, but not enough to keep me around. Ironically, I stoped watching right around the midway point when it started to get good and course corrected to have what made Stargate great, but adapted to the modern TV show structure.

        When I went for a rewatch, I came in not expecting Stargate show. My mindset was as if it was no Stargate - which actually made me enjoy S1 so I could get to the parts that actually felt like I’m watching a Stargate show.

        If S1 was made similarly to S2 I suspect more Stargate fans would enjoy it.

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    I’m ready for a new Stargate show but unfortunately it will quickly die if its locked behind the MGM+ streaming service paywall. I’m not subscribing to a streaming service to watch one show.