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    Not gonna lie, I didn’t expect him to blame a corpo product. I figured he was gonna make something up like a poor diet that’s nebulous and doesn’t cause financial harm to a company.

    Although maybe he tried to shake down the company and they refused where others paid up.

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    Wow, autism turns out to be not only bad but also women’s fault. Amazing what an investigation under the impartial leadership of misogynist neo-Nazis can discover.

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    Well as long as we can blame women, that’s what’s really important. Remember moms, if your child is neurodivergent it’s entirely your fault you irresponsible hag.

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      you irresponsible hag.

      This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.

      100 years ago, when these people think was the ‘golden age’, women were actually blamed for their children’s issues. They blamed nearly everything on women. Yeah, let’s go back to that: MAGA women, how does that sound to you? Do you think you’re one of the good ones?

      Let’s bring back lobotomies for women who have too many opinions, too. The world was better when only men were allowed to have opinions and women were the root of all evil, like the bible says.

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          Oh god. I’d never heard of that. That was a thing, started by an asshole psychologist in the 1940s. Legit psychopathic mentality, wtf.

          e: so the jist is that your kid is autistic because you suck at being a parent and are too ‘cold’. Imagine your’re doing everything you can, but the entire medical system is telling you it’s your fault for not caring enough. That’s the ultimate gaslighting. Because if you cared enough, your kid wouldn’t be this way.

          e2: and reading more, they took kids away on this grounds. I feel so horrible for those parents. You had no recourse at all. You were doing your best, and your child had a medical issue, but based on the social symptoms of your child you were a ‘refrigerator mother’ so your kid was put in an orphanage. Wtf.

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              I guess they’re ‘cured’, if you mean ‘dead and buried in mass unmarked graves’. e: they don’t have those symptoms anymore.

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          Leonard’s mother in Big Bang Theory is based on this theory.

          Although technically she should be Sheldon’s mother.

          And Sheldon’s mother should be Howard’s mother. And he should be gay.

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        This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.

        It still happens today.

        I just had a baby. You’ve no idea how many times we were told “Good/Great Job Mom” after hearing the baby is healthy, and seeing it isn’t deformed.

        As if an illness would be my wife’s fault.

        We just left those on read. Like WTF?

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          My wife had cancer young and it caused her to be unable to nurse our children; she just couldn’t produce enough and so we bottle fed our kids. It’s been over 10 years but she still gets shit on for it by certain types (including some in my own family who remind us whenever they get a cold). She is so goddamned, rightfully angry with the types who try to shame people for not breastfeeding.

          Those types are in charge of policy right now.

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      Sadly theyre going to sue the shit out of the US government, which we will all be paying for with tax dollars when they win… direct consequence courtesy of the morons who voted for this

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        Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump or someone else in this admin is good friends with executives at Johnson and Johnson and the whole point is to just give the company massive gift by doing a legal case with high damages and guaranteed loss

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          ???

          They could literally just request the government buy more Tylenol for the military industrial complex.

          They could just hand it to them for research.

          They could put out an ad on the white house lawn like they did for Goya, and Tesla.

          Again, they could literally just hand it to them. Do you have any idea how many billions of our dollars go “missing”. Spent but unaccountable.

          There are so many other ways to just hand Tylenol money than disparage their product on a global scale.

          Sometimes a moron is just a moron…

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            This could also just be RFK wanting to put the idea in the world. Doesn’t matter if it’s real, doesn’t matter if it gets disproven in court, as we’ve seen with Andrew Wakefield - as soon as the idea enters public discourse, it’s alive forever, especially in the age of the internet. There will ALWAYS be a core of people talking about it, willing to accept it as gospel, and they might even be loud enough to launder more public opinion on it through wellness grifters, the entire ideasphere of which is highly incestuous.

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      Is there only one place that produces all the acetaminophen? He hasn’t named any brands directly that I’m aware but i don’t fallow that weirdo very closely. If he names a big pharm brand directly you know it’s some real market manipulation, right?

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      Because the anti-vax people who have autistic kids hate their children. They hate that they’re not perfect and “normal”. And they hate that they have to deal with a child that requires more care than other people’s children do.

      I think we should make banners and say it out loud to every single person who can hear.

      #Anti-vaxxers HATE autistic children

      #Especially if that autistic child is their own.

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        I’ve never thought about it like that but it makes so much sense. The hate in the heart of these people runs incredibly deep, I know because my own family has disowned me because I refused to “take the red pill”.

        I am a leader in a youth organization and we have a few autistic kids in our group. They are wonderful kids, and their parents are just amazing with their patience and love for all the kids. I can’t imagine the difficulties they face, but I’m so truly blessed and happy to have these kids in my and my children’s lives. I’ve worked with special needs kids a few times, and the pure joy they are capable of is something that sticks with you.

        But I’ve also known a few less involved and less interested parents who denied and refused care for their kids who clearly need help. I can’t say I know the political persuasion of any of these folks, but I’m pretty good at inference…

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        Yep, this is precisely it.

        I really seriously believe that autistic/neurodiverse people and especially kids should be viewed as a kind of class of person that is at high risk of being discriminated against, hate crimed, targetted by state violence.

        Hans Apsberger was a fucking Nazi who … literally coined the term autism and yes, he is the guy apsbergers is/was named after… and yes, he directly orchestrated the deaths of ‘mentally disabled’ children.

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-hans-aspergers-nazi-collusion/

        They’re gonna do another genocide, based on more junk science, just like the OG Nazis.

        RFK Jr has already said he wants to take everyone on any kind of prescription psychiatric medication, move them to forced labor farms, house them in bunkhouses, remove their phones, all contact with the outside world, and also make them all quit their meds cold turkey.

        https://slate.com/life/2025/06/donald-trump-rfk-jr-kennedy-health-wellness-farms.html

        This is the kind of shit you hear TrueAnon describing cults doing.

        But scaled way, way up.

        This is a recipe for causing millions of psychotic breaks, just cold turkey, unmanaged total cessation, no gradual wind downs with check ins with therapists and such, also done in basically slave labor conditions.

        Possibly also worth mentioning is RFK Jr’s aunt Rosemary.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy

        She was suffocated as a newborn for 2 hours.

        This caused her to be developmentally delayed.

        They lobotomized her (while she was awake and conscious) at age 23.

        This regressed her to the state of a 2 year old.

        She was institutionalized and largely hidden from the public for the rest of her life.

        This is literally Nazi mad scientist shit.

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            She was oxygen deprived at birth because the doctor was running late and the nurses wouldn’t let her mother push until he got there. By the sounds of it she had some minor learning disabilities and possibly some impulse control issues as a result. Because that allegedly resulted in her being somewhat promiscuous, her asshole father had her lobotomized.

            I suppose if one really wanted to play armchair psychiatrist, you could argue that the failures of medical science of the time may have contributed to him having a negative view of modern medicine as a whole. Not a defense of the rat bastard, just mildly interesting to think about.

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          No, he’s just an old narcissistic psychopath who is bitter because he’s never had the respect that his father and uncles had, from the public, or even his own family, who hate him.

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      Because they can’t cope with random chance, there has to be a cause. They need a villain.

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          Why blaming gods for random bullshit is easier on the mind? Random bird take a massive shit on my cars hood? Clearly Odin needs to reign in his ravens.

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            You get brought up with prosperity gospel and you think that wealth and good fortune are an indicator of holiness and piety. You internalize that shit. And since you worship what you have been told all your life is a loving god, since you do all the things your church tells you to, since you give them 10+% of your income and hate the minorities they tell you to and vote for the fascists they tell you to, you know yourself to be pious.

            Understanding that we live in a random universe with no sense of justice is fundamentally incompatible with a belief in an orderly universe governed by a just god. So when you encounter misfortune, you don’t blame God, since you see Him as infallible and perfect. You either blame yourself or start looking for someone to blame.

            Which is very useful to people seeking to manipulate hateful credulous people who are convinced of their own righteousness.

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          Hardships are a test from god unless that hardship can also speak or act counter to societal norms!

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        Is that as those who are punished, in religion, deserve it? However children are innocent and usually autism is diagnosed in young people or children. So, they don’t ‘deserve’ it? If it’s just random, maybe other things are too and the preachers are making stuff up?

        It’s a long train of thought to get there. I’d say it’s more just susceptibility to conspiratorial thinking, but who knows.

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        They don’t want to fix it, they want to blame the victims for “causing it themselves”.

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          🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️

          Not so gentle Reminder that republicans don’t help or “fix” anyone period.

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          Uhhhhh… budddddy. Hopefully this didn’t happen to you. If it did you’re parents were kinda dicks 😔

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            Luckily not to me, but I know of a child that has autism where the parents were blamed by some related anti-vax parents for vaccinating their child.

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          To be on the spectrum is one thing, but low functioning autistic is just soul crushing for people to deal with. I’ve seen some siblings struggle just because their family was pretty much screwed trying to raise a low functioning autistic child. I think I’ve interacted with two such people in many years, so it’s not particularly common compared to the larger population on the spectrum.

          It’s one reason I don’t like autism as a spectrum, as there’s a world of difference that doesn’t seem right to cast one net over.

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          Exactly! Were going to get you on the raw gerbil-milk diet, boost your immune system and kick those nasty n-grams right out of your poor cortex :-)

          Everyones someones aspie 😎

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      Because right-wing parents refuse to believe they have a genetic disorder in their in-bred families.

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      Depends on, many want a scapegoat to punish, many want a reason to try to “fix” us, and I guess many want a reason to leave those who are in need of support without it by blaming it onto them.

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    So something so ludicrously common that it basically can’t be proved. Super.

    Did you know that 97% of people killed in car accidents clean their teeth on a regular basis? I think we need to look into that.

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        Oddly I don’t think that can be a full 100% due to infant death during or shortly after birth.

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            The host is a great description, going to have to start using that… well maybe not.

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              The way it lands would probably depend on context, including who the speaker is. Having a uterus and calling yourself a “potential host” is vastly different from someone else, for example RFK Jr, using the term to refer to others. One is a deliberate subversion of the expectation that anyone with a uterus is supposed to be pro “having babies.” The other can be straight-up dehumanization (depending on how it’s used.)

              Being on the internet, where the sex and gender of a speaker aren’t always obvious, you’re probably making a wise choice by avoiding the term.

              With all that said, as a uterus-haver, I still laughed when I read it. So… ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

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                I for some reason though of it being used in the worst video dating reel. Think “lowered expectations” but with some modern “trad wife” wanting asshat.

                “Looking for an available female for the purpose of becoming the host of my son”

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      it basically can’t be proved.

      Due to a massive dip in Tylenol sales from the tainted bottles scandal in 1982, Kenvue can easily prove autism rates were not affected.

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      100% of people exposed to dihydrogen monoxide eventually die, and sometimes develop an array of diseases and disorders before their inevitable death.

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    What a fucking joke. Tylenol is literally like, the only painkiller you can take while pregnant. Our OB said only Tylenol. To attack this, that is in such broad use, is to clearly state that this study is bunk and they’re just making shit up

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      Have they tried investigating water? Most criminals have water. Most pregnant mothers whose kids turn out to have autism drink water.

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        Turns out they have investigated water, and it’s fucking toxic here in the states. 100 or so chemicals are regulated and tested for out of many thousands.

        Based on the data of the chemicals that we regulate and test for, the reality points to our water as being a potential environmental cause to seriously look into.

        https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfas_contamination/map/

        Capitalism and the byproducts of the industrial revolution are driving chronic disease in a general sense, at the very least.

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          Gosh, I’ve read about the water situation in places like Michigan. It didn’t occur to me that parts of the USA have water that could be to blame. I should have said bread! Although that might trigger the gluten crowd.

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            It’s not just Michigan, not even close. I recommend looking up Status Coup News on YT to see Jordan Chariton’s reporting.

            Here is a recent short (please ignore the AI voice, I guess it was an experiment for them): https://youtu.be/xsMJvO-fhxg

            (https://youtu.be/MJ19Nzx-93w is the video it’s based on.)

            That’s the latest crisis, there are many more that only they do reporting for - check the channel out. The EPA and mainstream media regularly cover up crises.

            And in regards to bread, that’s probably toxic too. Our pesticides suck and our soil is also likely fairly toxic as well.

            Though not completely widespread, contaminated sewage biosolids are used in agriculture to fertilize soil (see: https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/01/forever-chemicals-sludge-may-taint-nearly-70-million-farmland-acres), and recycled black water may even be used for agricultural irrigation in some places. I doubt that the filtering is sufficient in even the best case scenarios for both practices.

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      Dude said he could see kids’ mitochondrial DNA or some shit, anything he says should be bunk!

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      The study isn’t necessarily bunk, but I wouldn’t trust him even as far I could throw him.

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        If you look at studies from the past decade you’ll find multiple, that are actually worth their salt with a high enough sample size, showing no changes in standard distribution of abnormalities. If you would like to post some studies proving your point that there is validity to this, please enlighten me. But the majority of OBs will continue to recommend Tylenol for pain relief in pregnant people.

        This is a trial run for his vaccine bullshit. If he can get away with this, you can bet your ass he’s coming out with a “our study shows vaccine cause autism and SIDS in babies” and use that to halt vaccines. The man has told us who he is for decades and a high on heroin leopard, does not change his spots.

        Do not try to give validity to his bullshit, unless you have well documented (multiple studies), large sample sizes, and over a significant amount of years studying the results. This kind of rhetoric is gonna be the thing that kills us, when he pulls the trigger on vaccines.

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    While this has been a serious inquiry of study, there is no causitive relationship yet. Also I’m fairly certain we would have a significantly higher population of autistic individuals.

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      Microplastics in the air caused by brake and tire dust seem to be the most compelling link I’ve seen. But that would mean a rethink of way too much, so blame a generic drug no one will bother defending.

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        Microplastics in the air caused by brake and tire dust seem to be the most compelling link I’ve seen

        There is nothing compelling in one shit study. Brake and tire dust have been a thing for 120 years.

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      We DO have a higher population. But most of us are so used to masking our divergent behaviors that we have no idea that there is an explanation for why our thought processes differ from neurotypicals. We don’t know we’re autistic. But now that I know, I can confidently say that I like myself, I like how my brain works, and I do not have a disorder, or an illness, or any kind of affliction. I’m wired differently and I’m good with that, and I would not change even if I could. Bobby Kennedy and his brainworm can be forcibly drowned in a vat of molecular acid as far as I am concerned.

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    For fucks sake, someone please stop this brain-worm-demented menace. He’s gonna kill so many people.

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    How far are we along with “autism is a genetic defect and we are now euthanizing defective humans for the benefit of society” are we?

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    I’m confused where this zeitgeist about Tylenol being bad for you is coming from. I remember working in pharmacy that taking Acetaminophen was the least reactive painkiller with the least number of long-term issues, but I’m hearing a lot more people talking about how bad it is for you.

    The studies I’ve seen have been correlative at best, and, considering that NSAIDs and opioid painkillers are far worse over time, I don’t understand the dissonance in advice that seems to be appearing.

    Is this more “seed oil” nonsense?

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      It’s pretty easy to overdose on Acetaminophen, Wikipedia suggests >100k a year in the us (it’s in so many OTC medication, stuff like cough syrups and the like, really easy to hit the 4g/day max dose)

      I’ll still use it, just use it responsibly.

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        To add to this I’ve heard professionals in my field say if acetaminophen was discovered today it would likely be a controlled substance for this reason alone. The overdose potential is too high. That always seemed like an extreme measure but i can understand it.

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          It’s more tightly controlled outside the US, in my experience. I think other heath agencies are quite aware of its risks

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        It’s not even a good pain reliever.

        I don’t know why it’s so popular.

        Ibuprofen/Motrin works about 100x better.

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        I thought they put acetaminophen with other drugs to keep from overdosing because it will cause pain if you take to much.

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          I hope not, it’s apparently pretty awful. You were up to fairly recently able to get Acetaminophen w/ caffeine and codeine (8mg) over the counter in Canada, found an article about a decade ago that mentions liver injury in people, definitely recall reading articles about bans on the sale because of the injury risk.

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            Yeah I have been looking it up and it seems quite the opposite. aspirin and ibuprofen will irrate the stomach enough to make it hard to take to much but acetaminophen seems not to. Now I have no idea why they put acetaminophen with other meds. Its kinda funny because both my wife and I find acetaminophen to not really do much and prefer muscle relaxants. We also find opiods to not work all that well (like when its so bad from the surgery you can’t function they seem to be able to bring you to functional but to me don’t really get rid of the pain just sorta tamps it down) but the nerve ones like gapapentin were like. wow.

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      I don’t follow this topic regularly and I can’t say anything about the mechanisms. From a superficial search I would claim that there is good evidence that Tylenol use during pregnancy can make the development of asthma in the child more likely. There is also some indication (at least one large cohort study from Icahn medical school) that it may cause delayed language development.

      That would be enough evidence for me to discourage use during pregnancy for treatment of discomfort or light pain, when safer options can be tried.

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        My point is that comparatively, acetaminophen is (or at least was) the safest drug for light pain.

        I haven’t seen any new categories of painkiller that would indicate that’s no longer the case, though.

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          So what’s the deal with ibuprofen, naproxen, and aspirin? Seems every time the subject may come up with a doctor, they say ibuprofen to me (last time it came up was when I had to pass a kidney stone, and boy I think I could’ve used an opiate for that one time…).

          Certainly a dramatic swing from 15 years ago when having a sonewhat sore throat during a physical landed me a prescription for opiate cough syrup…

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            NSAIDs cause crazy increased risk of intestinal bleeding and and it inhibits the ability for the kidneys to excrete uric acid, they also increase the risk of heart attack and stroke.

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      A lot of common over the counter drugs like Tylenol are more risky than people assume, so the idea of one having negative effects on fetal development isn’t out of left field. At the same time, not a single study pushed by this anti science ideologue can ever be trusted without corroboration by independent researchers. The risk of having a bad reaction to common medication nobody bats an eye at is often higher than the vaccines this dumbass rails against, so it’s not like a stopped clock being almost right makes up for his bullshit.

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        so it’s not like a stopped clock being almost right makes up for his bullshit.

        Nice try, Jessica

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      That’s the sad thing.

      The sentiment is good. MAHA pounding Big Processed Food and Big Tobacco and (to an extent) Big Pharma and such is great.

      …If only the specifics weren’t so awful.