A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.

A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.

  • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
    77·
    1 year ago

    Imagine trying to pretend that Palestine didn’t exist just cuz colonial England said “this is ours”.

    The British Mandate of Palestine (which was not a state), arose because of the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Palestine has literally never been a country, in all of human history. There were Jews living there at the time, too.

    The only people who have ever seriously tried to make Palestine a country are the Israelis (and by proxy the US/UN)

    Gaza and the West Bank were parts of Jordan and Egypt, lost during the 6 Day War, so even then the area we call Palestine wasn’t Palestinian. Israel gave them the territory, and was under no obligation to do so.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
      96·
      1 year ago

      Again being an officially recognized state has nothing to do with it. You act like colonized people have no inherent right unless the UN recognizes them as a state. That is not only false but laughably absurd.

      You’ve created a completely arbitrary rule that demonizes Arabs for really racist reasons.

      Palestine was recognized by the people who lived their as theirs. For thousands of years. Doesn’t matter if it was ottoman or England. Those Palestinians were there until English decisions pushed them off the land.

      Those are facts u can’t dispute.

      • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
        63·
        1 year ago

        You said they took over someone’s country, and that never happened. I certainly didn’t bring up a factually-incorrect point and argue against it.

        Palestine was recognized by the people who lived their as theirs. For thousands of years.

        This is an extreme oversimplification that also denies there were many ethnic groups in the region. There was no “Palestinian” identity for those thousands of years.

        I strongly support a two-state solution and Palestine becoming a country for the first time ever. Hamas does not.

        • Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
          67·
          1 year ago

          Now you’re just being pedantic. Yes in 1948 what was considered Palestine wasn’t an official country as recognized by the UN.

          Again. None of that is relevant.

          The people who were there were forced out to make way for a un recognized “state.”

          You’re pretending like it’s ok because the UN didn’t recognize this area as a state already…despite the fact it was widely recognized by everyone else who actually lived there to be what we now call Palestine.

          You could make the exact same argument for how the Germans treated the Jews… Makes you realize you’re the bad guy here doesn’t it.

          • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
            64·
            1 year ago

            This is fuckin ridiculous man.

            Some light reading, that may perhaps educate you on the significantly longer and more complex situation that you like to pretend - like the fact that the area was majority Jewish before Israel existed.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

            I’m not sorry the Ottoman Empire was dismantled. Though their culture impresses me, the rest of their history does not.

              • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
                43·
                1 year ago

                If you knew what apartheid meant you’d know how fucking dumb that line is.

                Consider actually educating yourself. It’s not hard.