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Love how some of his loudest critics are his own daughter and his own AI.
Elon is only a free speech absolutist in the sense that he’s absolutely free to censor speech he doesn’t like.
Free speech absolutism quickly got hijacked by the early far-right of the internet. From dumb idea of “we should let everyone say whatever they want, words are just words”, it evolved into the switcharoo of the far-right doxxing and harassing its opponents, accusing them of “intolerance”, but when their opponents did the same, doxxing and harassment suddenly became a bad thing that must not be tolerated by anyone. Even mere criticism of the right became akin to the most brutal actions committed by state actors.
Innuendo Studios, when talking about the “You go high, we go low” tactic of the alt-right, he used the example of packing the court. In reality, the tactic is probably as old as Adolf Hitler accusing others of censorship for not giving him a platform.
Aaaand the solution to this? Get the fuck off Twitter. I don’t know why people love to see blatant abuse of authority and are cool with that. Quit being chodes and supporting a chode.
I’ve always found the obsession with that pathetic platform a bit sad.
Suggestion the public is being manipulated
to me this sounds like they’re trying to cover something they’re doing up
Bullet ballot voting % increases, swing states using a database acquired through a “undecided voters” campaign, and a wireless internet service provider being used to send votes from remote locations.
Nothing to see here.
Sorry conservatives, you are now woke too. You gave it your best.
legit simply turning around their shit and calling them woke drives them batty. it’s like the “weird” thing was at first except it enrages them even more. just keep doing it. call their culture wars “woke nonsense”. whatever it is just turn it back on them and watch them burst blood vessels.
Isn’t it great that Americans are so intelligent and well-informed that we voted to give this trashcan more power?
We pretty much fucked any chance we had for the middle/lower classes to gain more power/influence during our lifetimes. Weak middle/lower classes = shit country. It’s only going downhill from here.
We pretty much fucked any chance we had for the middle/lower classes to gain more power/influence during our lifetimes.
I may have disagreed with you if Kamala hadn’t spent the end of 2024 proving that the destruction of the traditional Republican party (not that I was a fan of R in the first place) was all the excuse D needed to sprint to the right. It’s not even like D is trying to pull things the other way, they have literally just embraced this opportunity to become even closer to corporate interests and move their party to the right.
They are fighting R because they are obligated to do so, but I no longer believe anyone in power in the Democrats cares any more about the middle class and non-white, non-male, non-Christian, non-straight Americans than R does. Pelosi put the final nail in the coffin of my good will towards Democrats.
I mean you can, and should be, pissed off at Democrats all you want. Doesn’t change that all data point towards them being a better decision for middle/lower class Americans.
Problem is, a bunch of Americans feel the way you do, but instead of still voting intelligently, despite being upset with Dems, they chose to stay home or vote 3rd party.
So now a felon rapist is our leader and the ultra rich have made it abundantly clear average people like us are going to lose even more power.
I mean you can, and should be, pissed off at Democrats all you want. Doesn’t change that all data point towards them being a better decision for middle/lower class Americans.
Very true.
Problem is, a bunch of Americans feel the way you do, but instead of still voting intelligently, despite being upset with Dems, they chose to stay home or vote 3rd party.
Wasn’t me this time, but will be next time. I voted angrily for Kamala. I’m not voting for the less-evil conservative party next time. I need to see differentiation and I need to see progressive policy stances. I’ve been voting for what Democrats might one day do if they ever get the chance for 40 years because I wasn’t willing to support Republicans. And I could accept all the compromises that kept pushing that carrot down the road.
I don’t view those things the same anymore. I saw what D did just in the last two months prior to this election and that was enough. (not by a damn sight my only complaints of the past four years, but the final straw. I can no longer pretend this is the party I was told it was all that time.) They need to be a different party next time, or I’m prepared to spend the rest of my life being one of the people folks hate for R getting elected. I’m not voting for the party of “what R used to be.”
At this point I think they are fighting against R because they have no other party to fight against, not because they have a shared principle among them.
Edited to add: Trump has brought the worst of every part of US history and society to the forefront and personified those things himself. And the response of D was still to become more like R, not less. Nuh-uh. They have four years to unfuck themselves, or I am done with them.
I’m not voting for the less-evil conservative party next time.
Good news, it won’t matter next time as far as the presidential vote goes! Remember that “most important election of your lifetime” thing that everyone laughed at? Turns out people didn’t want free and fair presidential elections any more. It’s still worth voting in blue states for state and local stuff in particular, but red states will make sure that no Democrat ever becomes president again regardless of how people vote.
Frankly my entire screed is predicated on ignoring the possibility that we never see a free election again. A possibility that I consider plausible.
At any level that Republicans have control over, we won’t for the foreseeable future. The only defense we have is the courts and blue state governments, and how effective either will be against the coming tide of fascism remains to be seen.
Careful, some instances take more after Elon’s idea of free speech.
The ratchet effect is real. I’m glad that I don’t have kids.
If the right will continue to have weird ideas, they might force you to have one. First it’ll be tax-breaks for families having children, then an outright childless tax, then other repercussions.
Where was Elon Musk on a ballot?
You been paying attention? Elon and Trump are buddy buddy. Elon has donated big time. He has shown up at rallies. They did a live interview together weeks before the election. Trump tapped Elon to be the head of a new government efficiency department. Now he’s making questionable posts on social media regarding our government and what he plans to do regarding it.
If you voted for Donald Trump, you voted to give Elon Musk more power in our politics. Anyone who thinks otherwise is engaging in an act of extreme ignorance.
Why the fuck is anyone still using Twitter
Or even talking about shit like this? Musk is living rent free in a lot of people’s heads. The way to make him irrelevant is to treat him as such. Making a fuss about everything he says, gives him undue importance.
To be fair, he’s commanding a ton of influence among policy makers, so it’s pretty critical to not completely ignore the bullshit he’s up to.
It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet.
Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I’m as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he’s in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states.
Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn’t solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can’t solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary.
It’s like when you watch Jon Oliver. It’s a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on.
So we should just not talk about his atrocities? Should we stay silent about the war in Gaza too? Because god forbid that Israeli war criminal is “living in my head rent-free”!
Musk will very soon be part of the American government, so of course we should talk about his authoritarian behaviours.
Momentum.
The average person is really hard to move to a new platform. I saw this when Skype was the big thing for internet communication the Microsoft slowly made it worse and worse before it was barely a shadow of its former self.
Alternatives existed, many that were much better, but they were slightly harder to use or came along way after people were already set on Skype.
It wasn’t until discord that the internet shifted, but even discord has its problems.
And FOMO. FOMO is super powerful. FOMO kept me on Reddit for way too long.
What momentum?
like it or not goverment official accounts, and official news accounts are things some people care about and there are few platforms that have as many as Twitter or Facebook /meta.
Good write up, except Skype is a terrible example, because it never became worse. Arguably it’s better than any alternative, at least when it comes to screen sharing, audio quality, and file sharing. (Although I’d love to be wrong about this.)
United States law enforcement agencies have the ability to eavesdrop on Skype conversations and to have access to Skype users’ geographic locations. In many cases, a simple request for information is sufficient, with no court approval needed. This ability was deliberately added by Microsoft for law enforcement agencies around the world after they purchased Skype in 2011.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security
Although I think Microsoft implemented end-to-end encryption for skype for single conversations at a time in 2018. Still, for seven years, microsoft was giving law enforcement every conversation they wanted.
That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about.
It was about the time they pushed the inclusion of banner ads in the application. Nobody left skype until advertisements were plastered all over it, even some with sound. Most of my gaming friends were early haters, as we’d been using Xfire and it served our primary purpose just fine.
Many answered you already but i’m gonna provide you with another piece of the puzzle. Why the fuck there always multiple threads about elon musk on lemmy frontpage? Propaganda and marketing runs deep.
I set up a filter to block any post title with “Elon Musk” but stuff like this will still get through though. Lemmy is obsessed with him.
Elon musk butt stuff… you are missing out!
This better not awaken anything in me.
Politics, sports, musicians, celebrities, news …
Those are slow to move off if they are at all.
It’s a shame.
mostly porn
Must be everyone living in the states that block Pornhub.
It’s not the states blocking ph, but ph blocking the states.
Because I’m not interested in trading one echo chamber for another. Also, sports and music.
few other platforms have ad much diversity in their hatred and negativity, community notes are funny, watching things slowly get worse is also interesting.
That misspelling kinda fits.
If you can’t be deboosted any further a Starlink satellite will fall out of the sky and unlife you.
Grok is a warmind confirmed.
Sorry, you’re going to have to be more specific. Musk? Is that a smell or something? Is there context I’m missing here?
This is not even a surprise. It’s exactly what I expected in fact. Just don’t use X/Twitter/whatever we call it this week. Just don’t use it, delete your account. It’s literally a platform for Musk and the people that think like him now. Even taking part is validating him right now.
It’s stormfront v2.
Use it and trash it by calling musk cisgender.
Can’t stress enough that most of the freedoms right wingers are trying to protect are your freedoms to obey and support the rich.
It’s the old adage “the laws that free me, bind thee”. Although I’d argue that I should include the extreme left wing as well with the way I worded it. It’s just that the extreme left is so few in number they’re statistically insignificant. Perhaps I’m just being pedantic.
I bet Grok doesn’t even have a clue about Twitter policies and is just making shit up
Exactly, I don’t know why people haven’t understood that yet, Grok is just another LLM, it doesn’t know shit, it doesn’t understand shit, it just regurgitates words from the data it’s been trained on and it certainly isn’t an insider at Shitter.
Stop asking Grok what the fuck Elon is doing
IT
DOESN’T
KNOW
The point is that LLMs are naturally biased but they’re also explicitly biased by the people training them. Knowing what biases are being programmed into these LLMs by their owners is a glimpse into their agenda.
If you want to read more on the subject these are referred to as “system prompts” and you can read about various “system prompt leaks” that can include such things as explicitly right wing walking points.
Grok may very well have such nuggets in its system prompt.
It should probably make stuff up that doesn’t make it’s boss look bad.
Grok is a laughing stock in LLM world.
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It’s worse than Gemini, Claude, so… why use it over API?
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It’s not open source or even open weights. Elon is straight up lying when he claims it is.
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It’s more expensive and generally more censored than great open weights models. Its even straight up worse than the remarkable Deepseek v3.
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It has no niche. It’s not long context, it’s slopped from training on other models, it’s not fast, it has seemingly no architectural advantages (not that they publish anything about it,) it’s not particularly good at prose or code completion or answering grounded in facts (hence the subject of the OP) or anything.
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Elon has one of the most inefficiently used H100 hoards on the planet, while other labs are making good models without being billionaires or scorching the Earth.
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Elon is an asshole, and I don’t want anything to do with him.
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Even for “business use,” simply associating with X makes you radioactive.
The only ostensible reason I can think of to use Grok is ignorance, or to lick the boots of Musk/Trump. It’s not good, it’s not ‘based,’ it’s just a shitty, expensive product hyped to the moon and “better some day.” Surprise, surprise…
Anyway, the point is Elon doesn’t care if Grok makes him look bad. Reality is irrelevant, he can hype the snot out of it and have hordes come running to bow in deference.
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It’s important to reference this old chestnut in times like this:
The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
This applies to human behavior on this medium, not the machines and services themselves. So, the more service providers tighten their grip, the more users slip through their fingers. Short of that, people can also just adopt new slang to circumvent automated censorship mechanisms.
This applies to human behavior on this medium, not the machines and services themselves.
I’d argue thr machines behave this way somewhat similarly too. The Internet’s services are designed around resiliency first and foremost, what with how IP packet routing is designed for “Any Possible Path” between end points. Any path that becomes “damaged” or otherwise closed is often circumvented if another link exists in the network.
The only way to truely restrict and censor internet data is to control 100% of the data paths into a certain geographical area and inspect every single bit passing through them, which is a monumental task.
Fuck this fascist playbook he’s running.
A wannabe Goebbels. Propaganda officer.
