The fire service is incredibly right wing, the IAFF didn’t back Kamala because trump supporting firefighters would have an aneurysm if they did despite it being in their best interests. She’s pro union and Trump is anti union. It’s a no brainer that a union should support her.
I’m a firefighter. Basically everybody I work with is a rabid trump supporter. They’re extremely opinionated but are completely ignorant on basic politics. For instance we were talking about Ukraine, they were saying Trump would end the war immediately. I said yes by withholding support so Ukraine is forced to make concessions to Russia, which is what Trump has stated he’ll do. I shit you not one of them said “No I think Trump will just go up to Putin and say ‘You have to stop this or we’re gonna fuck you up’ and Putin will listen because he knows Trump means business.” I used to think it was difference of opinion but they truly are just completely uninformed, the shit they say makes no logical sense.
And right here we can see how the system works. Tit for tat. How do Americans live in such a openly broken country. The worst part are the political donations and those donations usually go to both sides.
Just vengeful considering the symbolism of that fund.
'Member when Jon Stewart had to publicly and repeatedly shame our leaders until they created the fund in the first place? I 'member.
Yup, I wonder if he’ll do it again. It took a lot out of him at the time
He ignored the call the run for office when it might have done some good, he can learn what happens when you let the chimps run the zoo.
It’s simple.
The Democrats shouldn’t have wasted a year of campaign time running a cognitively-impaired man and then replaced him with a milquetoast candidate who wasted three months telling poor people, many of whom are full-time, gainfully employed firefighters, to be joyful about the fact that they can’t pay for groceries.
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they’re no better. That’s especially true when it comes to the poor and working class.
Well sure, so you get a milqtoast candidate on the one habd and a literal rapist, felon, liar and entitled billionare kiddy fiddler on the other. You k iw who yoi want on charge ? A compentnet administrator reluctant to make decisions becase only an idiot would be assured at the level with so much nuance .
But you know what, lets choose the felon becase they’re “much the same”
The Dems are asshats for sure, the GOP is striaght up fucking Nazis, voters who can’t tell the difference are the real concern. This isnt even lesser evil.
I get where you’re coming from, I do, but milquetoast is an optimistic definition.
There are multiple sources claiming that internal polls showed trump winning 400 electoral college votes while Biden was still running. Straight up LYING to donors, constituents, and media. A “competent administrator” would’ve held an honest primary. Not tried to shove this man uncontested down everyone’s throats.
It’s seems incredibly disingenuous to put this all on the voters. At some point you need to admit that the entire democratic party straight up shot themselves in the foot. It also does NOT seem to be a stretch to assume that it was well known in inner circles that he was NOT in his right mind anymore and had NO GOOD REASON to run again at his age.
I agree with you. Trump sucks. A paper bag could’ve defeated Trump. so why the hell didn’t the democrats just walk down to cub foods and grab one, instead of refusing to get off their asses, rummaging in their couch cushions looking for something to throw in the ring?
Dems need to stop blaming the voters, do some introspection, and admit to themselves that they completely screwed this up all on their own.
This is what Democrats don’t get.
Tens of millions of Americans are working 2-3 jobs at 80-100 hours a week for the privilege of starving and keeping a roach-infested roof over their head.
They are already living in fascism, and Democrats seem even more out of touch because they just ignore it and profit themselves.
Democrats need to jingle keys in front of voters, not spout policy
True but people shouldn’t have voted for a sociopath either. There is more blame there.
You don’t consider it sociopathic to look at poor people tell them: “Have you just tried being happy?” That was Democrats’ entire message for months of the campaign.
i call it completely out of touch: i different, and lesser form of stupid upsetting bullshit
Stop pretending dems aren’t also sociopaths. You can prefer them to Trump, but stop gas lighting people about how the dems are actually good.
I think that the real story is that economy was doing slightly better, and this is what caused everyone to be so pissed. Its slight uptick caused people to stop and say’ “What, that’s it? Where is mine? Everybody should Fuck Off”. When the economy slightly down-ticks, people tend to be more understanding. Humans are generally shitty and short sighted, especially those that voted for Trump.
I think the problem here is that the democrats got addicted to the lazy politics of fear. It’s always kinda been there, but we got where we are today in '16 when they decided that their best shot at getting HRC her win was promoting the craziest Republican possible. If your opponent is turbo Hitler, then you don’t need to promise anything and therefore don’t need to keep any promises, you just promise to not be turbo Hitler and go back to yucking it up with the lobbyists and your pals from the hedge funds. And Hillary didn’t promise much (inb4 she offered a pretty means-tested half-hearted helping hand to a select few people under special circumstances). I’m now convinced that the only reason Trump lost in '20 was COVID, and democrats misread it as people being willing to embrace their spineless platform of “not that guy”. So, when they of course tried it again in '24, they got egg on their face.
The thing is, you can’t keep people afraid, eventually they burn out on the fear for better or worse. I remember the government tried that post-9/11. Every day for years (and especially when they were trying to sell the Iraq war) the terror threat level was Orange or Red. The news even had a little dooblie-doo in the bottom left corner that showed the threat level of the day. Well, when it’s orange or red for six years and nothing happens, people eventually just stop paying attention. People stopped being afraid of Trump, and with nothing really on offer besides more "not that guy"ism, it’s not a shock they lost.
Of course, the lesson the democrats already seem to be taking from this is that they all need to become republicans, because surely Republicans will finally vote for Democrats if democrats are Republicans. Because, you know, the only voters that matter are Republicans, and they definitely will vote for a different party if given the chance, right?
Or an “opportunities economy”… bitch… a lot of people are not entrepreneurs don’t want to be entrepreneurs or are forced into being a fake one by the gig economy. Maybe shore up the base stuff before you start again helping entrepreneurs.
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More “lesser of two evils” fallacy, meanwhile the country and world are still being held hostage by the only terrorist group to ever use nuclear weapons on a civilian city - twice.
Americans love clinging to their illusions of normalcy. Pretending that we’re deep in some GOP vs. Dem “fight for democracy”, while both parties, for some inexplicable reason, are in total consensus for supporting a random genocide, ignoring their collective responsibility for endorsing a machine of mass murder, while getting furious at each other over the little differences in domestic rights the politicians pretend to care about.
ah, more “boTh sIDES ARe THE SAMe” fallacy.
Also, judging by the reactions to the CEO shooting, many, many Americans would love a change.
Gee, however long ago could we have foreseen that Trump would have just the worst takes when it comes to first responders and 9/11.
Washington Post: On 9/11, Trump pointed out he now had the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. He didn’t.
Right. Publicly, since literally 9/11.
I guess it must have been too late for them to possibly know, when he already had the shittiest take possible the day it happened, a quarter century ago.
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I mean, at least they didn’t endorse the felon
Unlike the police union who actually endorsed the felon. Like, what happened to “law and order”? What a joke.
“law and order”
You jest. Murder a bunch of innocent kids in schools - prison. Kill a CEO who headed up a death panel - death penalty.
Law and order has always been a tool to oppress minorities. The people who loudly proclaim to be in favour of it never feel bound by laws themselves.
Have you ever actually needed the police? Once you do, I’m pretty sure you won’t feel repressed.
Can you give some example situations where you believe police would make things better?
Like all those people who called to police and then got murdered?
Had someone pull a shotgun at a house party once. I called 911. They wanted to know which manufacturer of shotgun before they’d dispatch a car, and finally showed up 13 hours later.
Such an expansive feeling of freedom and protection! They truly are heros! Like a meatball sub.
ETA: if only they’d thought to call the cops at Uvalde.
EXACTLY! That’s why Uvalde called 200 of them when Children were getting Murdered!
Have you ever actually needed the police?
No. For what? Nobody actually needs police.
Not sure if sarcastic or not. If not, you’re in the right community for that statement.
“mmmmmn, boot, so delicious”
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The FD will be subordinate to the PD in the USA soon.
That’s not the whole story, that union extremely rarely endorses any candidate and only endorsed Biden specifically for the funding. Not to mention that this occurred under the Biden presidency.
The legislature creates the budget, not the presidency. And the legislature is controlled by Republicans.
Yes, and that didn’t start in the 2024 election.
Have you missed the last week of news? The funding was stripped out of the original budget, which had already gone through bipartisan negotiation and had support from both parties, because Trump and Elon Musk coerced their party into rejecting it.
Ok yes that’s true and I do think it’s a terrible sign on the deathknell of democracy, but how is that different from Trump dictating GOP policy for the last 4 years?
It isn’t, many things have been unable to pass both chambers due to the 48:2:50 split in the Senate and Republican control of the house. Most of Biden’s accomplishments were from 2021-2022 and changes to the agencies under the Cabinet.
But that’s not really the point of the discussion, the discussion was about blaming the Biden Admin for things literally being done (or in this case explicitly not being done) by the Republican Legislators.
In fact, another great example almost exactly like this is when Biden endorsed a Border Security Bill to compromise with moderates and the GOP, Trump killed that one as well because it would have made Biden look good. LINK TO STORY
This was always Jon Stewart’s pet project. I’m sure we’ll hear it from him, though idk what he can do to lobby for it now.
