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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Having faith in politicians and liking a document designed to ensure the preservation of human rights & liberties are two different things.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

a document designed to ensure the preservation of human rights & liberties

How has that been going lately?

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd say pretty good. How often do you see the federal government passing a law that violates the rights of the American people? And when it does how often can you say that there isn't a constitutional violation in that law?

Additionally you say that like we don't enjoy many rights that our global peers don't. Like the right to a trial by jury in civil matters, to confront your accusor in a criminal trial, the many strict protections we have on searches, or the protections on political speech.

So many of the rights that document protect people take as granted. Most every violation of one of those rights can be declared to be because we have yet to enumerate that right or we haven't followed the rules the constitution imposed on our government.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How often do you see the federal government passing a law that violates the rights of the American people?

Law. You're cute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And what crime passed by the federal legislature did they commit that wasn't in violation of the constitution (including BoR) in your opinion? Last I checked 1A is still there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And what crime passed by the federal legislature did they commit that wasn’t in violation of the constitution

Hey! You finally got my point! They use it as toilet paper.

As far as the First Amendment, remember when Trump respected a bunch of protestors' First Amendment rights by gassing them so he could take a photo op by a church and there were zero repercussions?

Toilet paper.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago

The rights that US citizens enjoy are standard across the overwhelming majority of our global peers, for any sensible definition of peer.

we haven't followed the rules the constitution imposed

A good constitution would be less ignorable. We ignore the words 'well regulated militia', for example.

Part of the reason Russia succeeded in getting trump elected is because our system, as laid out in the constitution, allows the person who got less votes to win sometimes. That's bad design.