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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Tbh, I'm not super worried, theres already been defederation with Hexbear and Lemmygrad. As they infect tanky safezones and cause more defederations because of it, non tankie specific federations are going to start becoming specifically anti Tankie in response. I mean, look at my comment calling them brain damaged, it hasnt been civility removed yet, which I feel is a good sign. So while they can always create new accounts on non Tankie federations, over time they are going to start having to hide their more violent revolution and dictator loving sides, which tbh, at that point I'll tolerate their presence.

Edit: It's kind of ironic how in a post where I called other people brain damaged, I wrote it like I was having a stroke. I've edited it to make it flow faaaaarrr better

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the part I find hilarious. MLs think the reason people don't like their outdated brand of communism is because they are brainwashed. The reality is that people don't like their outdated brand of communism because tankies are insufferable, know-it-all autocrats who refuse to engage with any modern formulation of Marxist theory.

If MLs would be more academically engaged with contemporary political science, people would like their messaging much more. Of course then they'd probably realize that Lenin and Mao were just giant assholes, so I guess it's a bit of a paradox.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

They don't want to engage because communism is just a facade for them to spread CCP and Kremlin propaganda. They're not actually communists.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

I mean, their messaging IS shit, but I think one of the biggest flaws that cant be overcome even if they started acting less insufferably is that they are ok with and will defend tooth and nail any dictator that says they are communist. I do not for one second believe that Xi or Putin has ANY intention of furthering LGBTQ politics for instance. Tankies whole ideology isnt thought through and HEAVILY conflicting

[–] pukeko@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a joke (or possibly simple wisdom) about a bar that's worth discussing here.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is it similar to the story about a table, but for the other side of the aisle?

[–] pukeko@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know the story about a table. Which is surprising, because I grew up in a bright red community where delivering pithy metaphors about the futility of breaking bread with the opposition was sport. (For the record, I wouldn't break bread with Nazis.)

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Its "If a table of 9 lets 1 Nazi sit at that table, it's a table of 10 Nazi's" or something like that

[–] pukeko@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Oh, no, it's exactly that. "If you let one Nazi into the bar, congrats you have a Nazi bar."