I appreciate the viewpoint.

This is an election where people didn’t even know Biden wasn’t running anymore, as Google Trend searches of “Did Biden Drop Out of the Election” skyrocketed during the election.

If you want to look anywhere, look at the users on far-left fringe websites that engage in deliberate misinformation campaigns

It’s not the fringe websites I’m concerned about. I’m talking about the big payouts: Twitter, Gamma ebook, TikTok and Instagram.

Fringe websites are where they test ideas and arguments. When they honed the correct message they likely migrate to spreading that the arguments of division to the mainstream sites. Possibly (in the case of Twitter and TikTok) with algorithmic boosts to the arguments.

Sure, that’s also sounds like a good disruption strategy.

The goal is to separate and disrupt us. And they will have fully paid specialists who strategize and are savvy on the latest arguments.

Anything that gets Democrats to tear each other apart is the goal. So we need to be careful about the whispers on the internet, and be more careful about thinking about who those whispers serve.

You are almost there but you are still slightly missing the point I’m trying to make.

Considering the fact that it is part of Russias strategy to polarize American politics to extremes

It is a specifically Russian strategy to demoralize the opposition through misinformation campaigns and the use of false flags.

A false leftist promoting a (on the surface) seemingly leftist point of view designed to disrupt and demoralize is within the Russian playbook. Case in point: Russians promoting both Blue Lives Matters and Black Lives Matters simultaneously, while specifically advocating for violence and otherwise making the discussion worse.

Now consider the messages that got out (and worked) in the last month of this election. Who created large arguments across Lemmy (pretending to be leftist) that Kamala is just as bad as Trumpon this issue?

Well, maybe some legitimate leftists believed that. But 100% if I were a Russian operative I know what message I’d be meming.

My brother in Christ you guys couldn’t be bothered to vote!

I think we need to discuss the serious chance that the Free Palestine message was designed to disrupt and demoralize the left.

We already know that the LA Times non-endorse + WashPo non-endorse + Gannett (who owns hundreds of local papers) non-endorse was specifically designed to demoralize us in the days before the election.

One Billionaires being scared of Trump making a non-endorse play? Okay I can believe that. Three that happened all within days of each other as a seemingly pre planned strategy??

No. Just no. We have some major enemies working against us and specifically trying to demoralize us this year. And it worked.

Why?

It’s almost like you have a major political party running disinformation against you that is hampering your enthusiasm across every known modern media platform or something.

I wonder who could be hurting the enthusiasm of the left with blatant attacks like the prevention of Newspaper endorsements, fake AI stories and possible algorithmic control of memes.

Cool. How will you lead these people? How will you communicate with all of them? How do you get all of them to trust you?

Well, you build up a network of trusted lieutenants who blitz the media with your message of unity. You organize your subordinates and their subordinates (and so on) until you have a network of trust with you at the top of it.

Of course, you will have competition. Run media disinformation campaigns on your supporters and the supporters of your opponents to hamper your opponents’s followers enthusiasm while increasing the enthusiasm of your own followers.

Spread vile lies if you have to. Contradict yourself repeatedly, say whatever you need to increase enthusiasm for your side while hampering enthusiasm for the other side.

Then get roughly 75 million people to vote for you while torpedoing the other woman candidate’s support to 68 million and win the 2024 election.

100 million isn’t needed, at least by my calculations. About 75 million is what you probably need. Perhaps in the past you might be led to believe that 80 million was needed (say in 2020), but as it turns out the hampering of the opponents support from 80 million down to 68 million is a better strategy.

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I’m not planning on being combative about this.

My mental model is that the majority of people having this viewpoint were caught up in a disinformation campaign tailor made for their viewpoints.

The election is over, it’s not helpful to try to fight the viewpoint anymore. But it’s more important from a media strategy to TRACK where this came from.

Hey thanks a lot for coming by!

I appreciate the viewpoint. But I’m curious about what media or social media you use.

Do you use Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Lemmy, Mastodon, Discord, Telegram or… Anything else?

Addendum: it was clearly a Kamala strategy to TikTok meme to spread herself. At some point, the Kamala memes stopped and fucked us over.

All TikTok needed to do was change it’s algorithm at inappropriate times and bam we are fucked. How many pro Kamala memes did you see in the last week’s before the election?

Because I don’t remember any coconut trees in the last weeks. The information fountain got shut off and fucked us. We need to know what happened so we are ready for next time.

We are looking at a media deficit so huge that 'Did Joe Biden drop out of the election’s was Googles trending search. I want to know why.

I’d argue that hieroglyphics and cuneiform are exceptions to the norm. They only cover the largest of ancient civilizations with the largest troves of writing.

IIRC, stuff like Indus River Valley writing has never been decoded.

It probably should be noted that history gets really fucky before the Iron Age.

Bronze age collapse means that most of the writing and tradition before the year 1000BCE has been lost. Furthermore, the concept of history itself was only invented in 500BCE or so by Herodotus. So the fragments of ‘history’ found before that time is basically religion.

The problem with Religion in trying to understand earlier stuff is that it’s filled with myth and mythology. We can say that a city exploded some time in that period (Given the Hebrew story of Soddom and Gamora) , which other religions at the time concur with. But the exact means at which that happened is lost to time

Asking about Bronze Age tactics is almost as relevant to asking a Dinosaur expert what color the dinos were.

No Bronze Age expert has any idea how tactics back then worked. All we have are a bunch of old armor and old weapons. We don’t know their organization, their supply lines, their capabilities or philosophies. People probably killed each other and had wars but we don’t know how.

The period between 4000BCE and 1000BCE is extremely mysterious. To the point that the few documents we find we don’t even know how to read. So even if someone invented history at that time, we won’t know how to read it today.

It’s pretty simple really.

The big reveal is a huge wtf to my brain.

The Jubilee is a time of celebration for Catholics.

Traditionally, the Jubilee is held every 25 or 50 years and is a time to celebrate progress, free slaves (back when slaves were legal), forgive sins, etc etc.

In a great celebration, it makes sense to add a bit of pop culture flair. It’s also common to focus on children and youth outreach during the Jubilee and an anime character does a lot for that.

As for Luce herself. The Jubilee is also a time of great pilgrimages. It’s recommended to get your 'once in a lifetime’s visits to Vatican City (or other local holy sites: Santiago de Compostela, Fatima, Guadalupe). As such, Luce is modeled after the image of Pilgrims: Pilgrim staff, raincoat and dirty boots.

Her eyes are of the seashell, a Catholic sign for pilgrims. The seashells guide pilgrims to holy sites (if you’ve ever been on the Camino, all the next locations are marked with Seashells).

I’m expecting that Luce (thanks to the seashell eyes) will count as an official signpost for the next year of pilgrimages. She’s got incredibly well thought out symbology here.

Edit: I should also note that the raincoat has the 2025 Jubilee of Hope flag on it.

In case you didn’t get what that green spot on the raincoat was.

Pascal programmers are confused.

Paul

Also, the Romans were clearly aware of a lot of other religions.

I’m fine with right wingers in my media honestly. I need to see their arguments anyway. I don’t want to be blind to what the far right is talking about.

But with that being said, the NYT has a lot of questionable stories. Beyond just right wing trash that I honestly am cool with.