There’s advantages to saving documents to the cloud for backups.
Severely limiting that space by default and then preventing you from saving files when it runs out is horseshit. Half the computer problems I’ve fixed recently are all caused by OneDrive running out of space.
My sister wanted to know why her Sims saves were disappearing. Turns out OneDrive was full and the saves were being backed up to it. No space = no more saving apparently.
Because they know most people won’t move to Linux. Most people will stick with whatever absolute garbage they know and will just be annoyed when things continue to degrade, but they won’t leave.
No no you misunderstand-- It’s primary storage. Your 1TB hard drive is merely a local cache for the $70 OneDrive plan that you for some reason haven’t subscribed to yet, but don’t worry, you’ll get lots of reminders to.
On the other hand saves shouldn’t be saved into fucking documents folder in the first place. Or it shouldn’t be used by any other program unless explicitly allowed to. The only time I see people actually using Documents folder according to its purpose is at work.
Honestly this practice comes down to Windows never standardizing a location for user generated files related to a program. We might finally be there with appdata but even that is poorly standardized (what goes into ~/appdata/roaming/ vs ~/appdata/local/ etc.) and most backup software ignores despite game saves being very important. My Saved Games still exists but it’s more surprising when a game actually uses it than anything. And of course really old software would just store the saves right next to the install files, therefore requiring the program to have admin access, and running everything as admin is always a great idea.
Well if you fill up the space you pay for… What is OneDrive supposed to do if you try to add more files? How would it pick which ones to upload to the cloud and which ones not to? It would be pretty annoying if it just let you keep adding data locally but stopped uploading it imo.
It should stop uploading new files, and visibly notify the user that their cloud storage is full.
It should not start silently deleting your data after you save something, especially because OneDrive likes to “replace” your Documents folder as it were.
Imagine you work really hard on some important document, save it, and then OneDrive lovingly deletes it for you with no way to get it back because you ran out of cloud storage. Instead of, you know, just keeping it stored on your local storage and telling you it can’t upload it?
Because that’s what it does now. Just deletes your stuff. OneDrive loses you more files than it saves. Terrible product and always the first thing I uninstall.
It doesn’t delete them from OneDrive, because they never get uploaded. If you max out the storage on OneDrive, then have a program write to that folder, it looks like everything is fine but OneDrive then deletes it once it notices no space is left.
It’s anecdotal, but I’ve seen it do this myself.
Perhaps to clarify: OneDrive folders exist both locally and in the cloud. If OneDrive is full, programs can still write to the local folder (nothing OneDrive can do to prevent that) so they don’t error or anything, but once OneDrive fails to upload the file just goes poof.
When you need to add anti features (like poor error case handling like this or the whole “auto save only works if the file is on one drive!”) to encourage users to upgrade their product, it’s a sign the service doesn’t offer enough value on its own.
Which is funny because cloud storage is a good idea on its own but it’s been so enshitified in Microsoft’s case that I don’t trust what they are doing behind the scenes. Like they could be training AIs on everyone’s cloud data for all we know to make a few extra bucks.
There’s advantages to saving documents to the cloud for backups.
Severely limiting that space by default and then preventing you from saving files when it runs out is horseshit. Half the computer problems I’ve fixed recently are all caused by OneDrive running out of space.
My sister wanted to know why her Sims saves were disappearing. Turns out OneDrive was full and the saves were being backed up to it. No space = no more saving apparently.
Wow, that’s really garbage. Why is MS trying so hard to push Linux?
Because they know most people won’t move to Linux. Most people will stick with whatever absolute garbage they know and will just be annoyed when things continue to degrade, but they won’t leave.
Ah, the battered domestic partner business model.
OneDrive needs a PSA that it’s a share drive, not extra storage.
No no you misunderstand-- It’s primary storage. Your 1TB hard drive is merely a local cache for the $70 OneDrive plan that you for some reason haven’t subscribed to yet, but don’t worry, you’ll get lots of reminders to.
On the other hand saves shouldn’t be saved into fucking documents folder in the first place. Or it shouldn’t be used by any other program unless explicitly allowed to. The only time I see people actually using Documents folder according to its purpose is at work.
Honestly this practice comes down to Windows never standardizing a location for user generated files related to a program. We might finally be there with
appdatabut even that is poorly standardized (what goes into~/appdata/roaming/vs~/appdata/local/etc.) and most backup software ignores despite game saves being very important. My Saved Games still exists but it’s more surprising when a game actually uses it than anything. And of course really old software would just store the saves right next to the install files, therefore requiring the program to have admin access, and running everything as admin is always a great idea.Well if you fill up the space you pay for… What is OneDrive supposed to do if you try to add more files? How would it pick which ones to upload to the cloud and which ones not to? It would be pretty annoying if it just let you keep adding data locally but stopped uploading it imo.
It should stop uploading new files, and visibly notify the user that their cloud storage is full.
It should not start silently deleting your data after you save something, especially because OneDrive likes to “replace” your Documents folder as it were.
Imagine you work really hard on some important document, save it, and then OneDrive lovingly deletes it for you with no way to get it back because you ran out of cloud storage. Instead of, you know, just keeping it stored on your local storage and telling you it can’t upload it?
Because that’s what it does now. Just deletes your stuff. OneDrive loses you more files than it saves. Terrible product and always the first thing I uninstall.
I’m gonna need a source for that.
I’m really sceptical that OneDrive syncs your documents, deletes them from your computer and then deletes them from OneDrive. That sounds bizarre.
It doesn’t delete them from OneDrive, because they never get uploaded. If you max out the storage on OneDrive, then have a program write to that folder, it looks like everything is fine but OneDrive then deletes it once it notices no space is left.
It’s anecdotal, but I’ve seen it do this myself.
Perhaps to clarify: OneDrive folders exist both locally and in the cloud. If OneDrive is full, programs can still write to the local folder (nothing OneDrive can do to prevent that) so they don’t error or anything, but once OneDrive fails to upload the file just goes poof.
When you need to add anti features (like poor error case handling like this or the whole “auto save only works if the file is on one drive!”) to encourage users to upgrade their product, it’s a sign the service doesn’t offer enough value on its own.
Which is funny because cloud storage is a good idea on its own but it’s been so enshitified in Microsoft’s case that I don’t trust what they are doing behind the scenes. Like they could be training AIs on everyone’s cloud data for all we know to make a few extra bucks.