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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

This is called False Equivalency.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Voting for Harris won't change this foreign atrocity!"

Foreign atrocity remains unchanged, but now you've got domestic atrocities.

"See! I'm helping!"

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Unlike Kamala, I will support Israel's right to win its war on terror. They have to win! And instead of pandering to the Jihad sympathizers and America-hating radicals, we will deport them.”

  • D. Trump, verbatim, on Nov 6th.

But yeah no, this will definitely improve things.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How dare Trump minimize Kamala's unconditional support for israel committing Genocide.

¿?

Trump wants Isreal to go harder. Even in that statement.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

whatever. best of luck palestinians who are still in existence in this moment.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

"Thoughts and Prayers"

Seems a fitting epitaph for America.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't get it. Are you happy Trump won, or...?

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Am I happy I was right when I told Blue MAGA they should stop running a campaign on Genocide and was banned from LemmyWorld?

No.

Was I right?

Yes.

Your takeaway should be to start ignoring the Blue MAGA cult who tell you to stick your head in the sand while Holocaust Harris is speaking. Criticize them and make them so unpopular that they run another candidate who is not Bidolf.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Alright. Well, gotta deal with the pain of having a criminal conman for a president on our individual ways, I suppose.

I'm not really interested in criticizing people, myself. You can do what you like and convince people to join you in whatever way you deem fit, but in my experience, they tend to shut down and stop listening (maybe it's my delivery). I'd much rather show them there's hope elsewhere, especially because right now, that's what a lot of people want. Honey vs. vinegar, and all that.

[–] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hope for us outside the US is that you just keep your wars at home. Chances for peace in Ukraine increased at least

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alright. Well, gotta deal with the pain of having a criminal conman for a president on our individual ways, I suppose.

By applying enough pressure that they run a decent candidate. Like how they replaced Biden because he would 100% not win after the CNN debate.

By allowing Democrats to run on a Nazi agenda and censoring dissent, the Blue MAGA crowd effectively doomed themselves.

Everyone fell in line behind an emperor without clothes. Are you really surprised the emperor has no clothes now?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's been so frustrating to have to put up with Democrats that try to enforce a Republican-style party line instead of building the coalition they need to win.

It's even more frustrating when they put a hundred times more effort into trying to build a coalition with members of the party they claim to be a threat to Democracy instead of their own left wing.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

No, but I'm still disgusted by the amount of gaslighting we got for the last 8 months. All Harris had to do was make a plan to end the war, but she.. didn't. And some liberals want to call it our (people who didn't vote for her) fault.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

More Palestinians will die under Trump. More Americans will suffer under Trump. More people around the world will suffer with a Trump presidency. But at least you showed the democrats...

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More Americans will suffer under Trump. More people around the world will suffer with a Trump presidency. But at least you showed the democrats…

It's almost like the tankies just want what's bad for America and don't actually care about palestine or human rights.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What will trump do to cause more Palestinian deaths?
What COULD he do?

Israel is already getting everything they wanted, and facing zero consequences or obstacles.

I don't disagree with you wrt American deaths, but that's not what this post is about

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Granted, Biden did almost nothing to slow it down, and kept Israel well supplied with the weapons of genocide. Do you really think it's a coincidence that Netanyahu waited until the day after the election to announce that Palestinians won't be allowed to return to northern Gaza though?

Granted, that was almost certainly the plan all along, but now even the fig leaf is gone. Without the need to devote any thought at all to political cover, Israel will stop even pretending to internal investigations of accusations against their own soldiers and redeploy those resources to the battlefield.

The number of Palestinian deaths may not be different, but they'll die even sooner.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

The Generals plan is in full full force. Netanyahu has already fully cleansed north Gaza.

JOE BIDEN IS STILL THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW.

There was never a fig leaf. They already didn't need to devote any attention to political cover, the USA already made it clear that it wouldn't tolerate holding Israel or any of the Israeli politicians accountable in international courts.

The difference between the two is purely in wording and absolutely immaterial. If anything, trump is being more honest about it.

Trump is terrible for other reasons, but they're both equal in this matter

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Literally does not matter. They're all demons, and they all maximise the suffering they inflict. If someone knew how to create more suffering, they'd share their secrets with the rest.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, it was worth Trump getting a second term in order for you to maintain your moral purity?

Listen, fuck Harris and every other Dem who failed to condemn the war in Gaza, they all deserve to burn in hell for that.

But did you really get what you wanted out of this?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Exactly. It was a douche and a turd sandwich. Refusing to vote because "they're a turd sandwich" is simply saying "I'm okay with the douche". It's a 2 party system. There are no good candidates. Only one that's marginally better than the other. Not voting is tacitly voting for the worst one.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Happy that Holocaust Harris ate shit

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