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This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.

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[โ€“] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

There is no war but class war.

[โ€“] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The culture wars are about the class war indirectly. Women are famously the first large underclass, worse than workers who don't own the means of production: workers who don't even own themselves, workers who do a second shift at home which goes unpaid and unrecognized in pensions and healthcare.

Failure to understand how these are connected translates into failure to achieve solidarity.

Hell yeah. I got nothing else to say, I'm just really impressed.

[โ€“] moseschrute@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I am a gen z man that voted for Harris. Iโ€™m sorry the majority of us are morons

[โ€“] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

Wonder if it has anything to do with oligarchs taking over the internet so only a select few sites run by them are popular. It can't be just like television was to the boomers, no way.

[โ€“] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 4 points 7 hours ago

...uhhh...we're not?

Among other things, they've been raised to comply with an authoritarian government since 9/11, so their whole lives.

[โ€“] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing you can be absolutely sure of as a liberal white male is that no one likes you or wants to hear from you.

[โ€“] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I can see that. I'm not a white guy but I'm raising a son. And we've gotten to the point where a boy can't express his needs and feelings, without being told "women have it worse", add to this the constant talk of men being dangerous, scary, the cause of all ills, and I can see how that would damage a young guy's self esteem and frustrate him. I have to constantly teach both my son and daughter to value others and don't judge them for what their entire gender did before they were born. I dunno if that made any sense, but yea it feels like boys just get told to "man up" and deal with it

[โ€“] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I live near a primary school and there are multiple "YES ALL MEN" slogans written on the walls right next door. I wonder what those boys will think about their place in the world when this is what the walls are yelling at them.

[โ€“] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

I was molested as a kid and I saw a woman holding a sign online that said "not all men, but ALWAYS a man" which completely ignored people like me who were abused by a woman

[โ€“] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"Remember, kids, blatant, sweeping misandry isn't bad because painting -- no matter how you slice it -- literally half of society as rapists and murderers and sex-crazed lunatics whose only thought is for animalistic dominance over anyone standing near them is a lie so big and so dangerous it'd give Trump a run for his money, it's bad because if a transmasc person reads an 'all men are bad' post, they might think it's about them and be sad, and then you'd be hurting someone we actually care about."

It sickens me that these people call themselves feminists. You can fight for trans rights and women's rights without doing it to the exclusion of everyone else.

[โ€“] ragnar_ok@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 12 hours ago

blaming one demographic or another is incredibly stupid. america as a whole voted for trump, dude won the popular vote. the majority wanted this

[โ€“] Fleur_@lemm.ee 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

FIND THE MINORITY AND BLAME THEM


anti fascist party

[โ€“] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Dems aren't the party of antifa lol.

[โ€“] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 11 hours ago

This really was the year that Dems took the mask off huh. They can act as smug and superior as they want; they don't realize they're exactly as stupid and gullible as Trump supporters. The only difference is that their parents voted Dem so they get to think of themselves as a "good liberal."

If you're blaming minorities for not voting for a party that supports their ongoing genocide, then you are Blue MAGA. It's not even a joke anymore, they will unironically tell you to shut up and fall in line to try and fight fascism.

[โ€“] Maggoty@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (10 children)

They went for Trump by 2%. Calm the fuck down. Go after millennial men, we went for Trump by something like 10%.Gen X men went for Trump by 22%. And Boomers were actually better than X at 11%.

So if you want to go after someone go after Gen Z's parents.

[โ€“] Mac@mander.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Would have been more than 11% but Trump killed a bunch of them off the first time around with COVID.

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[โ€“] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gen X men went for Trump by 22%

"They won't be able to ignore us, now! Now everyone will remember Generation X!"

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[โ€“] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

9/11 was 23 years ago.

The nationalism that arose implanted itself in the children of that era.

Those kids are now in the voting booth.

[โ€“] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago

9/11 is the new Red Scare?

[โ€“] USSEthernet@startrek.website 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I blame social media and algorithms. My teen son for the longest time was leaning further and further right due to the content he was getting served on YouTube. He was making disparaging comments about women and how stupid they are. My wife and I who lean left had to sit down and have a talk with him about what he was saying and videos that he was getting served by YouTube (that popular red pill girl, I can't remember her name and andrew tate among other red pill stuff). He's a pretty smart kid, once we showed him data and articles that directly proved all the things he was watching wrong, he started to come around. He's been careful to believe things that he sees or hears on the internet more now. Occasionally, he'll bring things to us that we have to double take and fact check to see if it's wrong.

[โ€“] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Nice. I really can't say much more but I will. Great oversight.

[โ€“] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly why we nixed youtube at my house. It's a right wing disinformation machine. A shame because there are some genuinely good content creators on that platform. My kids are younger, but their attitudes get out of whack when they watched YT. Fuck that platform.

[โ€“] joekar1990@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I feel like any social media platform you start a fresh new account on has a built in right leaning bias unfortunately. Then on top of that rural am radio is mostly GOP talking points.

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[โ€“] Mango@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Gen Z is the Hitler youth because all you parents told them art school is a waste of time and they took that to heart! Clearly it's important to be hard and the world is about competition and being better than everyone else! You can't make enough money if you're not dominant and respected because we pay for leverage instead of value around these parts!

[โ€“] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You don't become Hitler by not going to art school. You become Hitler by going to art school and getting rejected from it.

[โ€“] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah but your parents can do the rejecting in their place.

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[โ€“] PanArab@lemm.ee 64 points 1 day ago

Alienation caused by economics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation

Fascists have a message for them, the liberals don't because they are committed to the current economic and political system

[โ€“] spaduf@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Because the democrats haven't made a serious appeal to them in a decade. We need to turn bell hooks into actionable political messaging.

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