Mmm, that link doesn’t say what you say it says. All it says is that The Trevor Project has gotten an increased call volume about election-related things after Trump won the presidency – what a shock. It does not mention anything at all apart from this, even the things I would have expected it to mention, like how many of the new callers were contemplating ending their own lives.

Additionally, I’m not sure how Drag could have made it more clear what Drag wants us to do about the fact that moderates are not our allies. And I’m not sure how much more clear I can make it that I still don’t really want to commit a felony in the name of politics. Punching people in the face, sure, fine. Pepper spray, why not. But I don’t like murdering people in the streets, especially not people whose only crime is being white, uneducated, and afraid of anything they don’t understand. Or just more scared of the police than they are of the rebels.

Lastly, I’m truly shocked by how easily you can insist that you think politically motivated violence is bad and not something that someone like Drag would advocate for and insinuate it is necessary in the same breath. You’ve been doing it this whole conversation, but you actually said both things that time.

Are you absolutely positive you’re a leftist? Because people who are left of center don’t typically call each other “eco-fascists” for pointing out easily verifiable facts about ecology that do not involve human interference in any way.

The tragedy of the commons, an argument as to why unfettered capitalism is bad, is right wing (i.e. pro-capitalist) propaganda.

I’ve officially heard it all now.

in theory i would like this but i cannot help but feel like this level of white-on-black uncrossed-A minimalism borders on the corporate

another quality post from geneva_convenience

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absolutely wild that someone would assume someone’s political views based on their understanding of ecosystems-level biology, but on lemmy, somehow, i’m no longer surprised

I’m reading/skimming the letter now, and while I’m definitely not going to read the whole thing (good grief that sucker is long), what I am reading, I agree with quite enthusiastically. Especially the parts about how everyone needs to be concerned about injustice, not just the people it directly affects, and how nonviolent protests that break a law to demonstrate that the law is unjust can be effective.

Yet still, somehow, politically motivated murder remains what Drag was pretty explicitly calling for when Drag said “we need to be prepared to kill them”, and what Dr. King was pretty explicitly talking about not doing when he said “We began a series of workshops on nonviolence, and we repeatedly asked ourselves: ‘Are you able to accept blows without retaliating?’ ‘Are you able to endure the ordeal of jail?’”, and something I’m pretty expicitly still not on board with.

Trump’s reign will only be ended by violence. We aren’t getting centrists’ and moderates’ help with that. They are the enemy. They are the complicit citizens of a nation we are going to war with. Some of them will try to stop us, and we need to be prepared to kill them.

Tell me how else I am supposed to interpret this, please.

That’s true. And yet, somehow, committing politically motivated murder remains pretty high on my list of things to not do.

I once got a moderator warning there for calling an idea “stupid”.

I like not killing people. Especially not civilians. Not killing civilians is cool.

beehaw defederates from like every instance with more than a thousand users. they are bizarrely insular

“stupid idiot victim of the system. why don’t you commit politically motivated violence like a cool person”

It’s not just grad and hexbear. Beehaw is doing it too.

Positive vibes only space, my ass.

Update: I never wanna hear anybody talk about how cool drag is ever again

I’m sure the trans people whose lives are now in danger will sleep much better tonight knowing that the blood of those Palestinian children who are going to continue dying because Donald Trump has promised not to even try for a ceasefire isn’t on your hands, because you didn’t vote for Kamala Harris.

I hope you’re fucking happy.

all i know is that you wrote almost 1500 words about why voting is pointless and then did not provide any alternatives

you advocated for voting in local elections, but not before saying that voting in local elections is pointless because local politicians can be easily bribed. you advocated for joining unions, but not before saying one should be wary of doing so because unions can be captured by the institution, however that’s supposed to happen.

all there is in that thread is 1500 words of doomerism. fuck doomerism, ima vote.

by the way, stop putting your own words on a pedestal just because you wrote them when you were slightly less sleep deprived. i’ve tried it before. it rarely works out well.

obligatory PLASMA RULES GNOME DROOLS

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