Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher are now not resuming their shows amid strikes.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    If these scabs really need something to do to kill time during the strike, might I suggest moderating an online forum?

    It’s fun.

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    For those who don’t know:

    Jack London, Ode to the Scab. 1916.

    After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab."

    “A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.”

    “When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out.”

    “No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself.” A scab has not.

    “Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British army.” The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

    Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class."

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    It’s why the right wing invented ‘cancel culture’, to try to demonize people banding together to change things. This kind of public pressure is a form of people-power. There’s a nasty side to it all, but this is an existential battle for the writers and a mild inconvenience to Drew and Bill. I know what side I’m on.

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      Cancel culture is fucking terrible in most cases. Let’s not excuse it because of some rare cases where it achieved something good.

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        Do you have any specific examples? I assume you must, since according to you, most of the cases are fucking terrible.

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          Well there were the Dixie Chicks getting canceled by conservatives for opposing the war. Probably not an example the fella you’re replying to wants to admit to, tho.

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            You could call it cancel culture or your could just call it pissing off your fanbase. This has always existed and will always exist. I don’t agree with the old dixie chicks fanbase but if they thought they could be antiwar and keep playing on country radio they were very misled.

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            Thanks for the assumption, saying that getting people to support a strike is a good thing is something most right-wing people do I guess.

            Wanna add Sinead O’Connor to people harmed by right-wing cancel culture, for example? The list doesn’t even stop there.

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          Jenna Marbles? Kentaro Kobayashi? Pretty much anyone who got “cancelled” for stuff they said or did 10 years before?

          People should be held accountable for what they’re currently doing, ruining a career for something that happened ages ago which no one at the time found wrong is just stupid.

          EDIT: Meanwhile, can you tell me some other examples of cancel culture actually doing something good? Because looking at common examples it seems pretty much every time it targeted someone who actually deserved it nothing came out of that (JK Rowling, Chris Brown… even people like Hulk Hogan or Kanye West are still around and doing sold-outs)

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            Sounds like you’re complaining about the free market. People don’t like something that was unearthed about someone, so they don’t support them.

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              It’s not a matter of “not supporting”. Marbles was harassed into closing her channel and Kobayashi lost probably the most important job of his life. Those have nothing to do with the “free market”.

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                Who are these people? They sound like virtual nobodies. I doubt they were ‘cancelled’ by anyone. They probably said something very stupid and got kicked off some social media app or other. Or, worse, *gasp* demonetized! Better get selling more Soylent.

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                  “I don’t know them so they must be nobodies”, ok.

                  Did you even look them up for a second? I can remotely imagine you think that about Jenna Marbles (and I don’t think a “virtual nobody” can get a wax statue at Madame Tussauds honestly), but Kobayashi was supposed to be the Director of the Tokyo Olympics Opening Ceremony. So not really a nobody either, much less virtual since he barely did anything online.

                  Did you just google the first name and skimmed through the results page without even opening them?

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            “Cancel culture” is a bit of a loaded term and so the replies to you have been somewhat charged. Most people view the situations public figures find them in as just the necessary consequences of their actions. And like you, I agree that each situation should warrant a measured response from individuals based on the severity of the issue. It’s okay to not want to support people you don’t agree with, especially when the reason is agregious or harmful to others. The issue then is that everyone uses the same cudgel in the same manner for every crime regardless of severity.

            But sure, if you don’t want to support someone for even the smallest of infractions, that’s your right. No one can take that from you. I may not agree but I support your right to do so. My only wish is that we at least give pause to think about the high bar for acceptable behavior we’re putting on public figures. I am as much for accountability as the next person, but I also think we’re humans capable of mistakes and capable of change. And right now, I don’t think a culture of grace is necessarily present online. We don’t have to tolerate hate or harm, but we can leave room for redemption. Maybe I’m being naive, I don’t know. But that’s my take.

      • olympicyes@lemmy.world
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        “Cancel culture” is a catch-all slur. You can tell it’s effective because of how you phrased your post instead of considering who is being “canceled” and the reason for it. Bad guys are trying to catch a free pass by highlighting less serious offenses and calling it the same thing.

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    Double fuck you to the crew on top of the scabbiness.

    “Y’all been out of work for months, have a gig that doesn’t cross a line. JUST KIDDING”

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        If they’re not already IATSE (which I’d assume they are), how would that help here? IATSE members all over the continent are out of work right now, being represented doesn’t change that. Nor does it change how much it sucks to get jerked around by twits like this.

        Your comment makes no sense.

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      IATSE isn’t part of the strike. Most likely because AMPTP would find a way to make American Gladiators with non-union labor, which would be a body blow to the union.

      If you’re IATSE, you’re working right now, because the union isn’t on strike.

      Edit: upon re-re-re-reading your comment, I now think you’re saying that the crew got fucked over, which I wholeheartedly agree with.

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    I’m so tired of PR filled apologies by celebrities. Eat shit.

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      Sometimes it is unavoidable unfortunately. Had to cross the picket line at the hospital where my grandma was dying.

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    this is why it kinda annoys me when people are like ‘posting doesn’t actually do anything’ – true, sure, but sometimes it kinda can, sometimes, and making your voice and argument heard is better than being silent

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      That’s like saying ‘communicating doesn’t do anything.’

      It’s just a tactic from bad actors to convince people they shouldn’t be fighting back.

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      Pregress over perfection. Be glad they listened to the response and adjusted, otherwise they may as well have not bothered and gone ahead anyway.

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    Bill Maher wasn’t complaining about the “crystal generation” not long ago? He folded?

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        Literally the only thing that makes Maher not a conservative in the US is that he’s anti-religon. In any other developed country, he’s comfortably a right wing conservative.

        Plus, regardless of political leanings, he’s an asshole.

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          I could never put my finger on why Bill Maher pissed me off so much and has such a small audience compared to other so-called “liberal” commentators - it’s because he’s an asshole that pisses off the left and right equally, but for entirely different reasons. Thanks.

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        He said that millennials complain too much and are always on the brink of a nervous breakdown and how boomers needed to be in charge. So I guess one crystal by itself even though sharp isn’t much of a threat. But when they are together is pretty dangerous like the cave of swords in Mexico.

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    I dunno, seems like all the shitty actors and writers are striking.

    Good thing, imo. The faster we can replace them with AI, the better.