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A high-speed, high-risk police chase over a nothing violation like this is an obscenity. I will never understand why people are willing to put up with it — why police aren’t fired, prosecuted, and jailed.

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    If the car was reported stolen, the plate would be tagged in their plate reader system. He’d know it was stolen before he flipped on the lights.

    If we aren’t going to have police stop car thieves, why do we even have police?

    • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Is a stolen car worth what happened here? Is it worth even the risk of what happened here? My answer is no and no.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        The risk seems to be growing for accidents. I use to have no issue with chases but more and more they are ending in disaster.

        Since many new cars have a gps. Why chase? We just need to open that up to cops when the car is stolen. They could then just wait till it’s stopped to make the arrest.

        I use to be more tolerant of chases but not anymore. The risk isn’t worth the reward.

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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          1 year ago

          Setting the precedent that criminals merely need to do dangerous shit to avoid all consequences for their crimes will produce for worse outcomes.

          Chase them harder, stop them faster. The most I would be willing to compromise is statutory leniency for immediate compliance.

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            1 year ago

            I didn’t suggest that. What I suggested is catching them later when there is less risk to other people.

                • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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                  1 year ago

                  How?

                  They drove off at a hundred miles an hour, and you didn’t chase them. They are miles away when they decide to ditch the car and run.

                  How are you going to arrest him when he gets out?

                  What stops him from repeating this performance the following day? Or the next?

                  With all the cars he’s going to be stealing, and police deliberately avoiding him, how are they goin to catch him when he hits a kid?

                  • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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                    1 year ago

                    Do you think a car is worth the death of another person ? I don’t.

                    Since the car is tracked on a map. You can follow them without causing a high speed pursuit. If you can’t then let them go.

                    How are you going to arrest them? Like they always do with handcuffs.

                    You keep trying to state something I never said. When did I say the cops should avoid them? I said they don’t need a high speed pursuit.

                    I was a cop for many years. We don’t do high speed pursuits except in grave situations. We normally used a helicopter to track the car and waited until they stopped, ran out of gas or contain them in a safe area.

                    It’s not that complicated.

      • xkforce@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Apparently the driver thought it was. Thats why they fled over in your own words, a nothing traffic ticket. They chose to drive in a dangerous manner that caused a fatal accident because they calculated that it was worth the risk to get away.

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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          Do you believe the driver would’ve driven as fast, as dangerously, and had the same fatal wreck had he not been pursued by police?

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            1 year ago

            Knowing he can evade police just by accelerating, yes, I do. And I think he would steal more cars, and drive them more recklessly, because he knows he can get away with it. I think he would put many more kids at risk. I think many more people would choose to steal cars in the same fashion, putting many many more kids at risk.

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        1 year ago

        There is nothing wrong with your answers. The problem is your asinine questions.

        Setting the precedent that criminals just need to do dangerous shit to successfully evade all consequences will have far worse outcomes than anything that happened here.

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            Stopping pursuit doesn’t guarantee child safety. The criminals will continue to flee at high speed for some time, before ditching the car and running.

            Now that they have successfully escaped, what stops them from doing it again? And again? And again? Endangering kids every single time.

            And when they kill a kid this time, the police are nowhere near to capture the murderer. He can come back and do it again tomorrow.

            Have you actually thought this through?

            • snooggums@kbin.social
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              Police pursuing increases the amount of time at high speed and increases the chance of a crash and fatalities. That is why some jurisdictions don’t pursue unless there is a direct threat of violence, like someone who just murdered someone.

              Have you thought this through?

              • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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                If you have thought it out, you should be able to answer the other questions I asked above.

                I’m waiting.