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They are supposed to be grown from spores, so what use are ork nipples?

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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You see this discourse come up from time to time in other fantasy settings. I remember there being quite a stir over whether lizardfolk in other media should have breasts.

I'm not deep into the Warhammer lore, but there's a few things I know about orkz:

  • They grow from spores like a fungus
  • They were manufactured by some other race as a sort of guardian caste
  • They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

My theory is that the folks who created the orkz had nipples themselves. Impressionable young orkz saw that their creators were fully grown and had nipples, so maybe they thought they ought to get some as they mature. If they believe that should happen, then it'll find a way to happen.

Later orkz would have seen that the previous generation of orkz had nipples, so they would continued growing in this way.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

I read once that this is why they paint their vehicles red. Because they believe that red makes it go faster, and with their latent psychic ability, the red ships actually DO go faster, because they believe so strongly in it.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My personal favorite, some kommandos believing painting themselves purple would make them sneakier because no one's ever seen a purple ork.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Commissar Yarrick can kill Orkz by staring at them real hard because they believe he can do so.

[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That he installed an eye socket laser to reinforce their belief in the death stare might help with lethality too

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[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

There's also the fan theory that the only thing keeping the Emperor barely alive is the combined power of all Orks who consider him a worthy and immortal opponent.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a single canonical citation for this? It feels like a meme.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the old codex books. It's going back decades however. The works have changed a lot from that era. It was the same codex as the buzzer squig catapult, if that helps narrow it down.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

The spore lore was only implemented in 1997. Before that their reproduction worked differently.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago

Mhhh this has norhing to do with 40k lore, It's just empirically proven that red vehicles go faster

[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

... honestly, the most likely argument is that they saw other races and collectively assumed they ought to have nipples too (oi! why dem pink skins 'ave dots on em? Orkzz ought 'ave em too!! wauuugh) also and so they manifested them. now its just part of their genetic code and none of them ask why anymore.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Orkz are no strangers to krumpin' gitz because they aren't Orky enough though. Even their own clan. I find it hard to believe they'd be easily peer pressured into having nipples, let alone by other species.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

That's not peer pressure, that's cultural osmosis. If other species tried to force them to have nipples, then they would resist

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So they can be milked, obviously.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"I have nipples, Grelnak, can you milk me? It may sound like sarcasm, but it's a genuine request. I'm getting quite swollen"

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This one right here, commissar.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well they're an evolutionarily manufactured race, so likely the base template had them originally but post intervention they remained as a vestigial organ.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So... A lazy creator? That tracks.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, what exactly would be the point of dedicating the effort to removing them?

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago

Lore hasn't clarified it officially but I suspect their nipples are just a specialized form of squig.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

What use are nipples on males?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm. Can't say I've licked one personally, but I see what you're seeing. I guess I meant an actual use for them. More of a rhetorical question I guess.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I guess I meant an actual use for them.

Licking is an actual use.

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[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Because males were females until the right amount of chemicals were introduced to the fetus. Take enough estrogen and males can produce milk and no longer have useless nipples.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

They actually are capable of producing a small amount of milk, it's just that doing that requires so much effort for so little reward that feeding babies became the mother's job after a few thousand generations of mammals being a thing.

[–] HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

sexual stimulation

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Boring answer:Because it's a game made by humans. Same reason the na'vi from avatar have boobs.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have been engineered by the Old Ones. So I’m just gonna assume, they didn’t think of that when the Necron and C’tan came knocking on their doors.

[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

psychological warfare. First thing the Necron & C'tan did in battle was hesitate thinking, "wtf? do those monsters have nipples?"

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Causing a couple of circuits to burn out. Kickstarting the Flayed Ones.

I am adapting this as headcanon now.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, human men have nipples and there's no use for them there either. Evolution doesn't get rid of things because they aren't useful anymore, it only gets rid of things when they become detrimental to the survival of the species.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Orkz didn't evolve though, they're an engineered species.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Human men have nipples because human women have nipples and human men having nipples doesn't significantly impair human men.

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Where do you think orc milk comes from?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same place you get bull milk.

[–] SinkingLotus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

With that consistency I think the milk spoiled.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For the same reason why some of the Necrons have nipples: intimidation.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do Ork nipples also cut glass?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. For Orks, it's all about size and color.

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[–] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe they're not mammal nipples, but happen to look like it.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Is there a lore reason why that mushroom has a nipple?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

If Batman and Robin can have nipples, orks can have nipples too!

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Which Ork models have nipples?

I can't say my knowledge of the current range is exhaustive, but I can't think of a single model that has one from the 1998 - 2016 era. There's a runtherd with a piercing where a nipple would be, but no nipple.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Because they collectively agreed that they should have them.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

what if the spores get thirsty?

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