• sudo22@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Criminals don’t open carry. If you see a gun holstered on someone, they are explicitly showing you they are not a threat to you unless you become a threat to them. If they wanted to harm you, why would they show their hand before making a move.

    Lethal crimes of passion are far more rare than you’re making them out. Carrying a pocket knife is legal in Canada no? Do you feel you’re in constant danger of being stab by any random angry stranger? Cars are common in Canada, do you flinch at every intersection because you aren’t sure if someone had a bad day and wants to run someone over randomly? No of course not, because the overwhelming majority of people don’t want to hurt anyone

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      1 year ago

      Did you see that video of the lady open carrying in Houston who started shooting at the car that cut her off? Hilarious. Sorry, you were saying?

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        Did you see the article of the Saskatchewan mass stabbing that had something like 28 casualties? Anecdotes are not indicative of trends.

        In a country of 300M you will have outliers. But there are hundreds if not thousands of carriers not hurting a fly for every article like this. Texas alone has 1.7M licensed carriers. So that ratio is actually probably in the hundreds of thousands to 1.

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          US has a gun problem. It isn’t really news. Unfortunately guns are ingrained into US culture and people will defend their right for guns against all common sense.

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            Try comparing countries by homicide categorically.

            As it is, you’re showing you don’t care at all about homicide - only that the specific implement is a firearm.

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              So US is what, in the top 20? If you filter for developed countries, US is firmly #1. There is certainly room for improvement. Having easy access to devices designed to kill people is just madness to me.

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                Why don’t you check out the data and directly refer to that early than making more bad guesses?

                The original intent of a thing is entirely irrelevant to what a thing is used for. The sheer number of things in use in day-to-day life in ways far beyond original intent is mind-boggling. And then there’s the flip-side, the logical extension of such an absurd focus precludes assigning actual blame for use of a thing in the way it was designed.

                I’m not sure how you define easy, but requiring a background check is more than sufficient barrier for me. Then again, I’m not pants-shittingly terrified of inanimate objects.

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      If you don’t want to hurt anyone, why carry a weapon designed for that exact purpose? There’s literally no other use for a gun.

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        Want and need are different. I don’t want to shoot a rabid dog that got loose, but I absolutely will before it bites me. Same with any other threats to my bodily safety that I can’t escape from.

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          God, do Americans live in such a state of paranoia they always think something like that might happen whenever they leave the house so need a gun? Seems sad.

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            Are you under the impression that America has a violent crime rate of 0 and carriers are just hullicinating the existence of criminals or dangerous animals?

            If you’re cool with relying on chance that you’ll never need it, that’s fine I’m not advocating you carry or change your laws. But I prefer to have the right to carry the tools to defend myself even if I’ll likely never need them.

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              I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don’t leave the house assuming I’ll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point.

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                So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don’t always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won’t work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing.

                If you’re cool with your odds that’s fine, but I’m not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner’s life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS.