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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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When law enforcement officers question a young person in custody, it is called custodial interrogation. In many states, lawyers are not guaranteed for every child during police interrogation, and most states allow children to waive their right to legal counsel—even if they are unclear about what that means.

In Delaware, Illinois, Oregon and Utah, law enforcement cannot use deceptive tactics such as making false claims about evidence or promising leniency when questioning a minor. Nevada is among the states to have enacted other safeguards, such as requiring police officers to read a simplified version of Miranda rights to young people during interrogations. Utah passed a similar bill earlier this year. Some states, including California, Illinois, Maryland and Washington, have adopted legislation to mandate that youth speak to a defense attorney before waiving their Miranda rights.

Also during the 2023 legislative session, three states—Colorado, Indiana and Nevada—enacted laws making a young person’s statement inadmissible if deceptive tactics are used during questioning.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's fucking insane to me that police are allowed to lie at all. It's insane to me that police are even allowed to ask to search things without having a warrant.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, you see the rules as written are too hard for your average police officer, since we don't want none of them smarties as cops, so we give them enough leniency for them to actually catch people, rather than restricting it to them only catching people the "right" way. That way they don't get too down about their own incompetence. Helps with turnaround. /s

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

Oh boy, here we go again with things we think cops 'must' comply with.

"It's illegal to lie to me about being a cop, are you a cop?"
"no" - said every cop ever...